To Honor and Serve

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He looks like a star in the making.

Bill Mott is absolutely brutal with 2yo debuters on dirt - and this horse ran so strong first out. His preformance yesterday was absolutely tremendous.

Bill Mott has 916 starts with 2yo's since 2003 - and his ROI from that huge sample size in a horrid $1.17 - you're talking about a 41.5% loss on the betting dollar.

And with 2yo's on dirt since 2003 - 594 starts and a $1.13 ROI - you're getting into losing triple the takeout. Words can't describe how awful that is.

Mott's two-year-olds tend to improve a whole lot from age two to three when he trains them .. and - if they get transferred to another barn - the improvement is often significant.

Zayat moved some of his 2yo's with Mott to Baffert one year - and several of them saw a big spike in form. Zensational and Pioneer of the Nile most notably. Baffert took POTN from Mott off of a 3rd place finish beaten 8 lengths to Square Eddie at Kee and a 5th place finish behind Midshipman in the BC Juv - POTN won his first four straight for Baffert - all at the Grade 1 and Grade 2 level before the winning streak was snapped with a 2nd place finish in the Kentucky Derby.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He looks like a star in the making.

Bill Mott is absolutely brutal with 2yo debuters on dirt - and this horse ran so strong first out. His preformance yesterday was absolutely tremendous.

Bill Mott has 916 starts with 2yo's since 2003 - and his ROI from that huge sample size in a horrid $1.17 - you're talking about a 41.5% loss on the betting dollar.

And with 2yo's on dirt since 2003 - 594 starts and a $1.13 ROI - you're getting into losing triple the takeout. Words can't describe how awful that is.

Mott's two-year-olds tend to improve a whole lot from age two to three when he trains them .. and - if they get transferred to another barn - the improvement is often significant.

Zayat moved some of his 2yo's with Mott to Baffert one year - and several of them saw a big spike in form. Zensational and Pioneer of the Nile most notably. Baffert took POTN from Mott off of a 3rd place finish beaten 8 lengths to Square Eddie at Kee and a 5th place finish behind Midshipman in the BC Juv - POTN won his first four straight for Baffert - all at the Grade 1 and Grade 2 level before the winning streak was snapped with a 2nd place finish in the Kentucky Derby.

That's kind of the way I saw it. He ran a very nice race in his debut rushing up the inside to reach contention and battling all the way. The pedigree is solid to go long as I think we're going to see the Bernardini offspring improve as the distances get longer. His dam was a stakes winner and he's a half to India, who won the Cotillion at Philly Park in 2006.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

His dam was a stakes winner and he's a half to India, who won the Cotillion at Philly Park in 2006.

I assume that would be considered the downside?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I assume that would be considered the downside?

What a colossal disappointment she was. I had almost forgotten that she was a huge favorite in the Matron that Folklore crushed.

[Betsy]

I was really hoping the race would come off the turf because I thought his debut was exceptional. I've never rooted against an Indy, but I did root against Astrology that day and after the race I was certain that To Honor and Serve was the better horse. Was that Charlotte Weber in the winner's circle? I thought so, but couldn't be sure.

Anyone know what Beyer fig he got? He's not on the DRF leaderboard.
Thanks!

[VOL JACK]

95

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

95

Are you talking about Arian Foster's longest TD run of the season or To Honor and Serve's Beyer?

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

95

Thanks!