BEYER: Defining Zenyatta's historical role

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by goingtothewhip

Sorry the fans and lack of a rigorous campaign has left a nasty taste on your palate, but the fact is neither have any bearing on how good she is. To let those factors sully your opinion of a horse seems kind of silly.

How can we really have a gauge of how good she is historically, which is hardly an exercise I want to undertake, when she's had such a carefully planned, cookie-cutter campaign? Greatness needs to be defined by taking on the best, the most significant tests and proving yourself in those scenarios. A final campaign with 5 exhibitions and the Breeders' Cup Classic was hardly what I was looking for from her this year.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

How can we really have a gauge of how good she is historically, which is hardly an exercise I want to undertake, when she's had such a carefully planned, cookie-cutter campaign? Greatness needs to be defined by taking on the best, the most significant tests and proving yourself in those scenarios. A final campaign with 5 exhibitions and the Breeders' Cup Classic was hardly what anyone with half a brain and a true love of the sport was looking for from her this year.

FTFY Nick

[goingtothewhip]

How can we really have a gauge of how good she is historically, which is hardly an exercise I want to undertake, when she's had such a carefully planned, cookie-cutter campaign? Greatness needs to be defined by taking on the best, the most significant tests and proving yourself in those scenarios. A final campaign with 5 exhibitions and the Breeders' Cup Classic was hardly what I was looking for from her this year.

i can't really argue with any of that (pre fix).

I can understand questioning her place in history, but it seems the vast majority of opinions are now polarized. She is the best ever or a mere curiosity. I'm going to hold off till she is done before writing what i think in my diary.

[Indian Charlie]

I'm going to make up a bunch of bumper stickers reading "WWZD" and sell them at her last two starts.

How many will I need to make to assure I don't sell out?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I'm going to make up a bunch of bumper stickers reading "WWZD" and sell them at her last two starts.

How many will I need to make to assure I don't sell out?

That is actually an unbelievable idea, you could get $5 for those, and make a killing. I would say you would need 2500.

[Smooth Operator]

Like I said before, just do some simple math:

17 (wins) + 1 (BCD win) + 1 (BCC win) + 1 (BCC dirt win) + 0 (losses) = LIVING LEGEND

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Like I said before, just do some simple math:

1000+ Zenyatta is great posts + 1 Zenyatta might lose in the BCC post + 1 non Zenyatta post + 2 really pathetic attempts at making up insulting nicknames = I AM A TARD

There you go again with the typos.

[PeteMugg]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

How can we really have a gauge of how good she is historically, which is hardly an exercise I want to undertake, when she's had such a carefully planned, cookie-cutter campaign? Greatness needs to be defined by taking on the best, the most significant tests and proving yourself in those scenarios. A final campaign with 5 exhibitions and the Breeders' Cup Classic was hardly what I was looking for from her this year.

Perhaps next year?

[hockey2315]

Interesting use of the word "fast" in the title. . . I wonder if that was Andy's doing or an editor's.