NE's two Rookie tight ends

The Indomitable DrugS · #1 09-29-2010, 11:33 AM

Odds on where Moss plays next season:

Patriots: 3/5
Vikings: 2/1
Broncos: 7/2
Eagles: 5/1
Field: 8/1

slotdirt · #2 09-29-2010, 12:02 PM

Wait, the Pats are an offensive juggernaut? Does that exclude games where they actually have to play a top NFL defense? I think there are more than a few college football teams that wouldn't have trouble hanging 30 on the Bills and then not have to sweat out the closing minutes against quite possibly the worst team in football this year.

The Indomitable DrugS · #3 09-29-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Wait, the Pats are an offensive juggernaut? Does that exclude games where they actually have to play a top NFL defense? I think there are more than a few college football teams that wouldn't have trouble hanging 30 on the Bills and then not have to sweat out the closing minutes against quite possibly the worst team in football this year.

The three teams they've played this year were ranked 1st, 3rd, and 10th in pass defense last year ... and 1st, 10th, and 13th in overall defense.

The Bills are just 5 point dogs against the Jets this week - and the over/under is just 36.

If you think the Bills defense sucks so badly .. go make a killing on the Jets and the over. To be honest, that's a bet I think Meyer Lansky will love.

The Indomitable DrugS · #4 09-29-2010, 12:08 PM

They also didn't have to sweat anything out. They had a 38-23 lead with 5 minutes to go. The Bills made it 38-30 ... and the Pats ended the game by taking a knee at the Bills 20.

If it was the 2007 Patriots - instead of running out the clock deep in buffalo territory - they'd have made that sucker 45-30 and covered.

#5 09-29-2010, 12:29 PM

This is Randy's last season. On any team. No one is going to meet his demands and he won't play for less.

philcski · #6 09-29-2010, 03:24 PM

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This is Randy's last season. On any team. No one is going to meet his demands and he won't play for less.

Interesting thought... I think he stays with the Pats when it's all said and done.

slotdirt · #7 10-04-2010, 05:19 PM

I hope someone took DrugS's betting advice on the over because, as it turns out, Buffalo's defense really does suck.

ateamstupid · #8 09-29-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The three teams they've played this year were ranked 1st, 3rd, and 10th in pass defense last year ... and 1st, 10th, and 13th in overall defense.

The Bills are just 5 point dogs against the Jets this week - and the over/under is just 36.

If you think the Bills defense sucks so badly .. go make a killing on the Jets and the over. To be honest, that's a bet I think Meyer Lansky will love.

They're 5-point dogs because people erroneously think that scoring 30 points on Sunday means Ryan Fitzpatrick is the Bills' savior rather than it being more proof that the Pats' defense can't stop anybody. People will ride with the Pats until the wheels fall off (coming soon). As much as I hate the Dolphins, it's a total joke that the Pats are favored on Monday. Just because people bet the Patriots, that doesn't mean they're good (see: Cowboys).

The Indomitable DrugS · #9 09-29-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

They're 5-point dogs because people erroneously think that scoring 30 points on Sunday means Ryan Fitzpatrick is the Bills' savior rather than it being more proof that the Pats' defense can't stop anybody. People will ride with the Pats until the wheels fall off (coming soon). As much as I hate the Dolphins, it's a total joke that the Pats are favored on Monday. Just because people bet the Patriots, that doesn't mean they're good (see: Cowboys).

Yeah - it's all just that simple.

I hope you bet the Jets on Sunday. Meyer Lansky will love them and so would I if I haven't observed how games like that are truly traps far more often than not.

Go to a sports bar this week and ask 20 people for a score in that game - I'd bet 18 have the Jets covering.

ateamstupid · #10 09-29-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yeah - it's all just that simple.

I hope you bet the Jets on Sunday. Meyer Lansky will love them and so would I if I haven't observed how games like that are truly traps far more often than not.

Go to a sports bar this week and ask 20 people for a score in that game - I'd bet 18 have the Jets covering.

I don't bet football, but I have a good idea how lines are constructed. The Pats are still being wildly overvalued by people because of their increasingly distant history, just like the Cowboys. Whether or not it's a trap game for the Jets -- it probably is -- is irrelevant to the Pats and your defense of them getting gashed by Harvard's finest.

#11 09-29-2010, 12:55 PM

The Dolphins-Pats game looms large for Drugs' fanatical hope of The Pats super bowl hopes.

2-2 1-2 in the division?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCySTWFcnlM

Crown@club · #12 09-29-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The three teams they've played this year were ranked 1st, 3rd, and 10th in pass defense last year ... and 1st, 10th, and 13th in overall defense.

The Bills are just 5 point dogs against the Jets this week - and the over/under is just 36.

If you think the Bills defense sucks so badly .. go make a killing on the Jets and the over. To be honest, that's a bet I think Meyer Lansky will love.

Buffalo was only a high ranked defense last year, because teams were running the ball knowing full well Buffalo wasn't going to stop them.

The Indomitable DrugS · #13 09-29-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club

Buffalo was only a high ranked defense last year, because teams were running the ball knowing full well Buffalo wasn't going to stop them.

Sanchez threw 6 INT's against them in a single game when they beat the Jets in the Meadowlands last year.

The Bills went 6-10 last year with an offense that couldn't move the ball worth a sh!t.

randallscott35 · #14 09-29-2010, 01:32 PM

Time for an avatar change Doug. Getting stale, like your threads.

Crown@club · #15 09-29-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Sanchez threw 6 INT's against them in a single game when they beat the Jets in the Meadowlands last year.

The Bills went 6-10 last year with an offense that couldn't move the ball worth a sh!t.

Wow one whoopie-doo of a game. They still gave up 300 yds of rushing on defense that game. If they had a better run-defense, they would had won the game 13-0. It doesn't change the fact that they fought to be the 2nd worst team in the league to stop the run and a another good reason they were 6-10.

The Indomitable DrugS · #16 09-29-2010, 01:45 PM

Buffalo's defense was rated 27th against the run - the Super Bowl champion Saints defense was rated 29th.

Any way - if the Bills defense sucks so bad - hammer the Jets and over 36 like every square in the world will.

ateamstupid · #17 09-29-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Sanchez threw 6 INT's against them in a single game when they beat the Jets in the Meadowlands last year.

The Bills went 6-10 last year with an offense that couldn't move the ball worth a sh!t.

And that exact same offense ran up 30 on the Pats' defense.

Antitrust32 · #18 09-29-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Odds on where Moss plays next season:

Patriots: 3/5
Vikings: 2/1
Broncos: 7/2
Eagles: 5/1
Field: 8/1

how does Moss fit in on the Eagles?

DJax is our down the field threat.

Maclin is the ****.

Avant is our slot guy & we have Riley Cooper as our #4. As much as I love Avant and Coop... I'd take Moss over them... but Moss isnt going to want to go to a team and be the #3 slot reciever...

The Indomitable DrugS · #19 09-29-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

how does Moss fit in on the Eagles?

DJax is our down the field threat.

Maclin is the ****.

Avant is our slot guy & we have Riley Cooper as our #4. As much as I love Avant and Coop... I'd take Moss over them... but Moss isnt going to want to go to a team and be the #3 slot reciever...

The Eagles made the biggest run for Moss in 2008. They offered way more than the Pats did. More money and an extra year.

He's not going to be a slot receiver for the Eagles - obviously.

Vick throws the deep ball well - and his ability to scramble will make him deadly with Moss. Jackson would have a similar role that Dante Stallworth had on the '07 Pats .. but obviously he's a lot more dangerous.

Antitrust32 · #20 09-29-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The Eagles made the biggest run for Moss in 2008. They offered way more than the Pats did. More money and an extra year.

He's not going to be a slot receiver for the Eagles - obviously.

Vick throws the deep ball well - and his ability to scramble will make him deadly with Moss. Jackson would have a similar role that Dante Stallworth had on the '07 Pats .. but obviously he's a lot more dangerous.

Since 2008 we've added two of the top young receivers in the game... though Djax is way ahead of Maclin at this point.

I'd stick with Jackson ahead of Moss at this point in time. There are very few recievers I'd want before DJax right now. Dude is averaging 24.5 yards a catch!!!

I highly doubt Moss is with the Eagles next year. Though we'll take that O-linemen of yours that is sitting out.