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Old 09-08-2010, 04:39 PM
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I dont think the Mosque should HAVE to move. Its a protected right. I think they SHOULD move out of respect. If the Imam had a little heart, he should be able to understand that.

The pastor has a protected right to burn the books. He should not do that, and I dont have to get into the reasons why he shouldnt because they are obvious. The book burning pisses me off a lot more that the Mosque because of the ramifications overseas. If this causes one additional death or beheading, then hopefully karma will visit this stupid Pastor.
And that's, as you said, the core of where we disagree, because I feel like if they move it because people don't like it, then that's essentially the same thing as having subverted freedom of religion, just not through officially mandated channels.

To me, that's a distinction without a difference -- saying that they shouldn't HAVE to move from where they want to freely practice their religion, but they should move it anyway. The pressure leads to the same endgame, that freedom of religion really doesn't come out as free as we've pretended it has been all this time just because it's some group we don't like.

And yes, I understand the semantic issue between "having" to move and thinking they "should" move, but if public outrage and offense causes the same thing in the end, I feel like it's essentially the same thing, and that's not how we should be doing things, with majorities dictating which rights minorities should have full and unfettered access to -- sound familiar?
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Old 09-08-2010, 04:41 PM
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at least they dont pick you up by your hair!!
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Old 09-08-2010, 04:58 PM
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And yes, I understand the semantic issue between "having" to move and thinking they "should" move, but if public outrage and offense causes the same thing in the end, I feel like it's essentially the same thing, and that's not how we should be doing things, with majorities dictating which rights minorities should have full and unfettered access to -- sound familiar?
are you talking about black people??


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Old 09-08-2010, 04:59 PM
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are you talking about black people??


When am I not?
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