Garrett At The Shore

[philcski]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Let's do this. You take some serious bankroll and play closers at MTH this summer. I suppose 'reality' might set in then.

I have nothing against playing speed. I play speed all the time, even on POLY (even at WO). My problem is when horses running other than early don't have a fair chance to win. This is the case at MTH; it's the case at MED; and it's also, pretty much, the case at GP. Compare GP to TAM. You can win on the front end at TAM probably as easily as you can at GP. The important difference, however, is that you have significantly better chance of winning from off the pace at TAM than you do at GP. Maybe this why so many bettors have moved from GP to TAM.

I don't need stats to tell me the above. I play these tracks and I'm very aware of how they play.

They can pretty MTH up all they want; it's still UNFAIR.

Listen, I'm not trying to convince you that it's a closer's paradise, because it isn't. All I'm suggesting is it's not as unfair as you (and most everyone) believe. Meadowlands is actually more kind to closers than Belmont or Saratoga. Here's the thing. This game isn't just an exercise in picking the most winners, it's picking winners that return more than the next guy does. So if the public seems to think that only wins, you can use that to your advantage. From 2004-2007, the average wire job at Monmouth paid $9.80 versus anything off the pace paid $12.80. If you can find a horse that makes sense coming from off the pace, you will get rewarded accordingly.

In comparison, Belmont, paid $11.60 for wire jobs and $10.80 for anything off the pace.

[philcski]

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...s-record-gains

What a disaster.

[randallscott35]

A simply astounding performance. Should be a wakeup call to the industry including that in NJ. I understand it is possibly a one shot deal, especially with the state's problems. That said I am hoping other tracks do similar meets.

[Antitrust32]

amazing. Best meet of 2010.

87% increase total handle on track up 2 mil even with 33 less racing days.

average daily handle up 213%. field size up 25% attendance up 47%

unbelievable

congrats to Monmouth.

[reese]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Can't wait for Monmouth to give away all that money and still watch Levine and Servis win 80% of the races.

Really smart move by Gomez. It'll be interesting if any other top jocks follow.

John Valezques' agent, Cordero said the SAME thing at the beginning of the MON meet...and WHERE did Valezquez race...NYRA.


Maybe Gomez doesn't want to compete with NY jockeys...he wasn't the "star" at Saratoga.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by reese

John Valezques' agent, Cordero said the SAME thing at the beginning of the MON meet...and WHERE did Valezquez race...NYRA.


Maybe Gomez doesn't want to compete with NY jockeys...he wasn't the "star" at Saratoga.

He still had at least 3 Grade 1 wins at the best meet in the US.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by philcski

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...s-record-gains

I wonder what the overall difference was in bottom line?

[Revidere]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

He still had at least 3 Grade 1 wins at the best meet in the US.

I was able to speak off hand with Gomez in July, and I asked him how he enjoyed the meet so far. He said, while he loved the area and had high hopes for the meet to go on, his comments were basically a 5,000 claimer is a 5,000 claimer regardless of the purse, so he spends more time in the jockeys room than riding.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Who ****in' cares where Gomez rides? How does where any jock rides impact on one's ability to pick (and bet) winners? Don't get paid for being a fan.

why do you give away "trade" secrets? thats how half of these people bet. they become a "fan" and bet their favorite horse or jock. something you'll never,ever make money on.(over time) yeah. we need gomez really bad in ny.....the only one that had more bad rides at saratoga was lezcano. he maybe the most over rated jock around. who cares where he rides....fools that bet jocks..thats who.