9/1 (SAR): $443k C/O ~ Contest/Discussion

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Pleine Forme looks very good considering the pedigree and relevant trainer angles, but the Pletcher looks sneaky. How often do you see him claim? The answer? Twice in the last 5 years. One of them was second by a neck going long on the turf at 10-1.

Question with an answer...
STRONG.

[fantini33]

The cats out of the bag on Thursday.......KITTYLICIOUS!! 15-1 ml in the feature.

Getting ahead of myself I know, but I cannot play on Wed, so looked ahead a bit to Thursday.

Nice card...

Good luck t'morrow folks!

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by fantini33

The cats out of the bag on Thursday.......KITTYLICIOUS!! 15-1 ml in the feature.

Getting ahead of myself I know, but I cannot play on Wed, so looked ahead a bit to Thursday.

Nice card...

Good luck t'morrow folks!

She ran really well last time and could fill out the exacta at a more likely price of 30-1

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

She ran really well last time and could fill out the exacta at a more likely price of 30-1

Not well enough.

[-BT-]

I’m thinking about singling in the finale….. am I suicidal?

I just don’t see the need to add mediocre horses to a ticket … sure they could win, but nobody is jumping off the form for me. The Roadhouse…. I know this horses is headed in the complete wrong direction, but im interested in hearing others opinions on this race. Stream of Gold seems the only other logical horse to me in this race, but this is also a horse hitting bottom at the age of 9 with 27 lifetime starts, on form he comes off as a plodder.


-bt-

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by -BT-

I’m thinking about singling in the finale….. am I suicidal?

I just don’t see the need to add mediocre horses to a ticket … sure they could win, but nobody is jumping off the form for me. The Roadhouse…. I know this horses is headed in the complete wrong direction, but im interested in hearing others opinions on this race. Stream of Gold seems the only other logical horse to me in this race, but this is also a horse hitting bottom at the age of 9 with 27 lifetime starts, on form he comes off as a plodder.


-bt-

The Roundhouse makes sense on paper, but he's just been such a complete disappointment this year, I could never single him. Stream of Gold is logical, but I think he needs a pace collapse to win and there really isn't much speed. If Eldoktori is able to sit just behind Cinder Cone, I think he'll take some catching in the stretch. I'm a little interested (as I often am) in Voss' horse, even though he appears to be in lousy form, he has some competitive turf races on the flats.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The Roundhouse makes sense on paper, but he's just been such a complete disappointment this year, I could never single him. Stream of Gold is logical, but I think he needs a pace collapse to win and there really isn't much speed. If Eldoktori is able to sit just behind Cinder Cone, I think he'll take some catching in the stretch. I'm a little interested (as I often am) in Voss' horse, even though he appears to be in lousy form, he has some competitive turf races on the flats.

This race makes the pick 6 almost unplayable to me.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The Roundhouse makes sense on paper, but he's just been such a complete disappointment this year, I could never single him. Stream of Gold is logical, but I think he needs a pace collapse to win and there really isn't much speed. If Eldoktori is able to sit just behind Cinder Cone, I think he'll take some catching in the stretch. I'm a little interested (as I often am) in Voss' horse, even though he appears to be in lousy form, he has some competitive turf races on the flats.

i really tried to make and excuse to use this horse....but i couldn't. I got him forth behind the obvious contenders and slick wheelie for god sakes. I just haven't seen the horse moving forward at the end of his last couple races..he did only lose his last by 3/4 but i think he's more apt to have a similar race 2 back where he stalks and just fades.... why the #5 Beneath the Crown is only 8-1 ml is beyond me.... wide open finale

-bt-

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by -BT-

i really tried to make and excuse to use this horse....but i couldn't. I got him forth behind the obvious contenders and slick wheelie for god sakes. I just haven't seen the horse moving forward at the end of his last couple races..he did only lose his last by 3/4 but i think he's more apt to have a similar race 2 back where he stalks and just fades.... why the #5 Beneath the Crown is only 8-1 ml is beyond me.... wide open finale

-bt-

The race sets up way better for Eldoktori than it does for The Roundhouse. He's no great shakes, but I'd prefer a horse with some tactical speed to a plodder like TR or SoG, especially with the way these jocks let people go on turf.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The Roundhouse makes sense on paper, but he's just been such a complete disappointment this year, I could never single him. Stream of Gold is logical, but I think he needs a pace collapse to win and there really isn't much speed. If Eldoktori is able to sit just behind Cinder Cone, I think he'll take some catching in the stretch. I'm a little interested (as I often am) in Voss' horse, even though he appears to be in lousy form, he has some competitive turf races on the flats.

I'm 1/2/3/4 in this race and not comfortable, but I thought Voss's horse was the most interesting, jumps obviously didn't work and as you said, his races back at Laurel fit here.

Why can't Cinder Cone go gate to wire? If those jocks don't respect his speed and let him go 25/50, he could be gone.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Scav

I'm 1/2/3/4 in this race and not comfortable, but I thought Voss's horse was the most interesting, jumps obviously didn't work and as you said, his races back at Laurel fit here.

Why can't Cinder Cone go gate to wire? If those jocks don't respect his speed and let him go 25/50, he could be gone.

that form dates back to '08 when richard's kid was a dirt horse.... and now

voss could crush me in this one, i just can't find a way to put him on the ticket


-bt-

[GPK]

Originally Posted by -BT-

I’m thinking about singling in the finale….. am I suicidal?

I just don’t see the need to add mediocre horses to a ticket … sure they could win, but nobody is jumping off the form for me. The Roadhouse…. I know this horses is headed in the complete wrong direction, but im interested in hearing others opinions on this race. Stream of Gold seems the only other logical horse to me in this race, but this is also a horse hitting bottom at the age of 9 with 27 lifetime starts, on form he comes off as a plodder.


-bt-

Slick Wheelie

[golfer]

Originally Posted by GPK

Slick Wheelie

That would make at least one Derby Trail member VERY HAPPY!

[deltagulf]

weds card could produce another carry over for thursday.
which would suit me fine can't play tomorrow but thursday i'm off work.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by GPK

Slick Wheelie

Good job with the pick Kev, and congrats to Parsixfarms for the win. Great job getting the horse ready off the over a year layoff, and great job of spotting him against a very suspect field.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by golfer

Good job with the pick Kev, and congrats to Parsixfarms for the win. Great job getting the horse ready off the over a year layoff, and great job of spotting him against a very suspect field.

Thanks Seth. Congrats to parsixfarms

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by golfer

Good job with the pick Kev, and congrats to Parsixfarms for the win. Great job getting the horse ready off the over a year layoff, and great job of spotting him against a very suspect field.

Thanks. Bruce Brown, Bill Recio (who had him in Ocala for about a year) and their respective staffs deserve all the credit. Bill laid a great, patient foundation with 'Wheelie, and the horse had been training great since he arrived at the Oklahoma in late June. In light of the injury that he suffered last July, this would have to rank as our partnership's most rewarding win no matter where it happened. That it occurred at Saratoga only makes it that much more special.

If only we had been able to hit the pic-6, then we would have had a tale of a lifetime. We had 5 consos, as Fancy Point and Crowned General were "B"s on our tickets, and we didn't have them tied together.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by GPK

Slick Wheelie

'sup -BT-

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by GPK

'sup -BT-

he capped off my pk4 in which i went 0-4
my pk3 in which i went 0-3
and my pk6 in which i went 2-6


slick f wheelie.... you gotta be kidding me, the roundhouse needs to head to finger lakes or the farm....eldoktori needs to close behind

can't believe i let joey talk me into eldoktori

nice pick wizard....who's the lone turf horse you're gonna select tom.?


-bt-

[fantini33]

Gonna play her in all spots and all over multi race wagers. Watch her last race. Ramon gets bottled up just a little last time and when clear blows by the others and just cannot get to the winner, who got first run.

I've said it for a long time..forwardly placed on the inner is the way to be, which is where she'll be. Ramon is great at this. He WILL get 1st run Thursday. Deep closers are ALWAYS overbet and seem to just not get up in time. That wire just gets there in a hurry on the inner. I've used this premise so many times successfully on the Saratoga inner with nice priced horses that I wish every card had 9 inner turf races.

Sitting on a big one and thinking that she is feeling good, which is why Gary throws her here.

IMO, she belongs here.

IMO