One of the greatest 11.25 length defeats by a filly in history

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Whether I think he's going to be good going forward is a different issue, his debut was extremely impressive.

NT

He blew a couple of nice 2 yr olds away in that race. The west point and klaravich colts are both nice and the contessa horse is supposed to be a runner.

Uncle Mo is a freak.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

He blew a couple of nice 2 yr olds away in that race. The west point and klaravich colts are both nice and the contessa horse is supposed to be a runner.

Uncle Mo is a freak.

Nice based on what? They were all first time starters.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Nice based on what? They were all first time starters.

Hype from connections for all that's worth. It will be fun to keep track of. I think the 1 could be any kind.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Hype from connections for all that's worth. It will be fun to keep track of. I think the 1 could be any kind.

Hype from connections isn't worth much to me. West Point likes every horse they own. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Violette to develop a 2 year old.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Hype from connections isn't worth much to me. West Point likes every horse they own. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Violette to develop a 2 year old.

Violette has done pretty well with 2 yr olds over the years if I'm not mistaken. Readthefootnotes was pretty strong.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Violette has done pretty well with 2 yr olds over the years if I'm not mistaken. Readthefootnotes was pretty strong.

That's one of how many? He's an exceptional first out trainer, but they rarely do much past October of their 2 year old year. Seriously think about how many 2 year olds he's had in the last 5 years. How many have won a stake at 3?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

That's one of how many? He's an exceptional first out trainer, but they rarely do much past October of their 2 year old year. Seriously think about how many 2 year olds he's had in the last 5 years. How many have won a stake at 3?

Dream rush. Litigation risk will win one this fall

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

That's one of how many? He's an exceptional first out trainer, but they rarely do much past October of their 2 year old year. Seriously think about how many 2 year olds he's had in the last 5 years. How many have won a stake at 3?

Violette had 38 2yo maiden winners from 2005-2009 that have run back for him at 3.

15 have won at 3 and only 2 of those have won stakes (Dream Rush and Summer Doldrums).

For the amount his owners have paid for those horses and for all the very good looking maiden wins they have had, those numbers are just not very good.

There are a few in here that skew the results to make them look better than they are too.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Nice based on what? They were all first time starters.

Nice dapples.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

He blew a couple of nice 2 yr olds away in that race. The west point and klaravich colts are both nice and the contessa horse is supposed to be a runner.

Uncle Mo is a freak.

That's a very tough race to use also-rans for perspective since it was all firsters. The Contessa took CRAZY $, but barely left the gate, so it's hard to point to the hype surrounding him as a positive for Mo.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

That's a very tough race to use also-rans for perspective since it was all firsters. The Contessa took CRAZY $, but barely left the gate, so it's hard to point to the hype surrounding him as a positive for Mo.

The wizzard talked the Contessa up and bet him hard to win, if I remember correctly.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

That's a very tough race to use also-rans for perspective since it was all firsters. The Contessa took CRAZY $, but barely left the gate, so it's hard to point to the hype surrounding him as a positive for Mo.

Unfortunately I used this horse...that was a lot of money to pay for him.