One of the greatest 11.25 length defeats by a filly in history

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

For a 3rd beaten 11.25 lengths with a Beyer in the 70's - it was a great performance. Great in relation to the running line it yields obviously.

I even liked Miss Singhsix's race - even though she was a mile off of the pace early - and ended up finishing 4th by 16.5 lengths.

Persistantly is a grinder and has been successful as a closing sprinter - Miss Singhsix is a slowpoke who's never even attempted a sprint race in her career - she moved WAY too soon imo. Valdivia should have had her 20+ lengths behind that pace instead of just 15.

Miss Singhsix ended up running her final half mile in 53.83 seconds - after making a huge middle move in tandem with Persist.

Doug Im saying this with 100% sincerity, no messing around It is meant to be a serious question. Is this thread you showing your genius, your ability to mess with all of us or are you actually being serious about a 70 something beyer and a double digit length loss?

[prudery]

Dementia praecox ...

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by prudery

Dementia praecox ...

I worked in a Dementia facility for a while.... Tough work.

Dementia praecox ("premature dementia") refers to a chronic, deteriorating psychotic disorder characterized by rapid cognitive disintegration, usually beginning in the late teens or early adulthood. It is a term first used in 1891 in this Latin form by Arnold Pick (1851-1924), a professor of psychiatry at the German branch of Charles University in Prague. His brief clinical report described the case of a person with a psychotic disorder resembling hebephrenia (see below). It was popularized by German psychiatrist Emil Kraepelin (1856-1926) in 1893 and 1896 in his first detailed descriptions of a condition that would eventually be reframed and relabeled as schizophrenia.

The primary disturbance in dementia praecox is not one of mood (as is the case in manic-depressive illness), but of thinking or cognition. Cognitive disintegration refers to a disruption in cognitive or mental functioning such as in attention, memory, and goal-directed behavior.

From the outset, dementia praecox was viewed by Kraepelin as a progressively deteriorating disease from which no one recovered. The three terms that Kraepelin used to refer to the end state of the disease were "Verblödung" (deterioration), Schwachsinn (mental weakness) or Defekt (defect). However, by 1913, and more explicitly by 1920, Kraepelin admitted that although there seemed to be a residual cognitive defect in most cases, the prognosis was not as uniformly dire as he had stated in the 1890s.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I worked in a Dementia facility for a while.... Tough work.

Dementia praecox ("premature dementia") refers to a chronic, deteriorating psychotic disorder characterized by rapid cognitive disintegration, usually beginning in the late teens or early adulthood. It is a term first used in 1891 in this Latin form by Arnold Pick (1851-1924), a professor of psychiatry at the German branch of Charles University in Prague. His brief clinical report described the case of a person with a psychotic disorder resembling hebephrenia (see below). It was popularized by German psychiatrist Emil Kraepelin (1856-1926) in 1893 and 1896 in his first detailed descriptions of a condition that would eventually be reframed and relabeled as schizophrenia.

The primary disturbance in dementia praecox is not one of mood (as is the case in manic-depressive illness), but of thinking or cognition. Cognitive disintegration refers to a disruption in cognitive or mental functioning such as in attention, memory, and goal-directed behavior.

From the outset, dementia praecox was viewed by Kraepelin as a progressively deteriorating disease from which no one recovered. The three terms that Kraepelin used to refer to the end state of the disease were "Verblödung" (deterioration), Schwachsinn (mental weakness) or Defekt (defect). However, by 1913, and more explicitly by 1920, Kraepelin admitted that although there seemed to be a residual cognitive defect in most cases, the prognosis was not as uniformly dire as he had stated in the 1890s.

God Bless wikipedia for the feeble minded like yourself.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Doug Im saying this with 100% sincerity, no messing around It is meant to be a serious question. Is this thread you showing your genius, your ability to mess with all of us or are you actually being serious about a 70 something beyer and a double digit length loss?

It's common sense is all it is.

You beat this game by finding horses who run sneaky good races like Life At Ten ran... but don't quite have the good back form she has - and come back in the right kind of spots.

In terms of my public handicapping, I've had seven winners picked on top in the paper that have paid $40+ to win this meet alone - and I very rarely pick longshots on top.

In Friday's 8th - my best bet of the day paid $63.60 to win - the daily double into him only paid $52. My top pick is profitable for the meet - in print - for the 3rd year in a row. The only year which I didn't show a flat bet profit was the 1st year - only a 25 day meet.

In terms of my betting - if you don't find enough horses who run races like that and come back in the right spots - you'll be needing to find a job.

[Dahoss]

Wherever Life At Ten runs next, what kind of a price do you expect to get? Where could she possibly run next time and be more than 3 or 4-1 besides a race like the Classic?

[randallscott35]

I don't think I saw an impressive race this weekend at the Spa, Rachel's race included.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I don't think I saw an impressive race this weekend at the Spa, Rachel's race included.

If you weren't impressed by Uncle Mo then you need to adjust your standards for modern times.

NT

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

If you weren't impressed by Uncle Mo then you need to adjust your standards for modern times.

NT

Could be. A nice debut. The 2 yr olds who seem to matter at a distance aren't running holes in the wind at Toga as 2 yr olds so take it for what its worth.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Could be. A nice debut. The 2 yr olds who seem to matter at a distance aren't running holes in the wind at Toga as 2 yr olds so take it for what its worth.

Whether I think he's going to be good going forward is a different issue, his debut was extremely impressive.

NT

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I don't think I saw an impressive race this weekend at the Spa, Rachel's race included.

Uncle Mo and Rapport?

[Seattleallstar]

Geez this would be an issue if Macho Again caught Rachel in the Woodward. Clearly 9 was the limit, and 10 was pushing it.

[CSC]

Life at 10 has never gone off higher than 4-1 in her lifetime on dirt, how is she going to be an overlay in her next start? Unless she goes back to turf, but going off of her lone turf try that would be foolish. Furthermore doesn't she regress off of her duel with Rach? Doesn't seem like a great bet to me next out.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Wherever Life At Ten runs next, what kind of a price do you expect to get? Where could she possibly run next time and be more than 3 or 4-1 besides a race like the Classic?

Like I said - she had a big backform coming into the race ... but I think you'll be surprised at how many people will be looking to play against her next time.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Like I said - she had a big backform coming into the race ... but I think you'll be surprised at how many people will be looking to play against her next time.

But who could they be playing against her with? She's not going to be running against males. Trust me, I understand your point and it's a good one. I just don't know if it's applicable in her case. We'll see.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

But who could they be playing against her with? She's not going to be running against males. Trust me, I understand your point and it's a good one. I just don't know if it's applicable in her case. We'll see.

On Betfair going into the PE - Life at Ten was 5/2 and Persistently was 69/1.

On the toteboard the next time the two of them meet - Life At Ten will still be a shorter price ... but I think you'll be extremely surprised by how minimal the spread in odds between those two will be. Life At Ten clearly ran the better race of the two on Sunday imo.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

On Betfair going into the PE - Life at Ten was 5/2 and Persistently was 69/1.

On the toteboard the next time the two of them meet - Life At Ten will still be a shorter price ... but I think you'll be extremely surprised by how minimal the spread in odds between those two will be. Life At Ten clearly ran the better race of the two on Sunday imo.

We'll see. Like I said, I agree with your general point, but I can't imagine you'll get a nice price on Life At Ten next time, which is what this entire thread is about.