8/29 (SAR): Personal Ensign S. (G1)

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by CSC

I'd love to hear his excuses today, he should be very entertaining tonite, let me know.

It'll ALL be about who Z is DUCKING, trust me.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

It'll ALL be about who Z is DUCKING, trust me.

The classic is out, I can't see them throwing her in at 1 1/4 again, the pace scenario will be alot more challenging at CD.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by CSC

The classic is out, I can't see them throwing her in at 1 1/4 again, the pace scenario will be alot more challenging at CD.

What are you delusional? When was the CLASSIC ever IN? Wasn't it clear she was done when Little Z bounced her? It was the SPIN by the BEYERITES, who desperately needed her to return to some semblance of last year's form, especially after their other darling, QR, got beat, that kept that CLASSIC talk for her going. She NEVER had a shot in the Classic.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

What are you delusional? When was the CLASSIC ever IN? Wasn't it clear she was done when Little Z bounced her? It was the SPIN by the BEYERITES, who desperately needed her to return to some semblance of last year's form, especially after their other darling, QR, got beat, that kept that CLASSIC talk for her going. She NEVER had a shot in the Classic.

This is Derbytrial isn't it? She will be heading for the classic until Jess invents a palatable excuse not to.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

What are you delusional? When was the CLASSIC ever IN? Wasn't it clear she was done when Little Z bounced her? It was the SPIN by the BEYERITES, who desperately needed her to return to some semblance of last year's form, especially after their other darling, QR, got beat, that kept that CLASSIC talk for her going. She NEVER had a shot in the Classic.

why do you say that? rachel had a hell of a campaign last year, hoy worthy. any horse would have been hard pressed to repeat such a year. whatever she does this year has nothing to do with last year. if the saints don't repeat, do they lose last years super bowl? i haven't understood this reasoning from anyone at all this year. rachel did what she did, an unreal 3 yo campaign for a filly-it doesn't require backing up. i thought you considered yourself a pro at this game? you sound like a rank amateur when you start this line.

it's a shame, i think they have completely messed up with rachel this year.

[RockHardTen1985]

The only real shame is Z's connections. Rachels know she is not the same and they have really just run her accordingly. Look at the horse who tested her at Monmouth last time, look what she did today. Some people came on here saying she was actually good and moved up on dirt, yes she proved it today. The shame is this... Z would have not only won, but cruised in every race Rachel has been in this year. Dont get me wrong Rachel is HOY last year and like the article on DRF says nothing changes that, but she is not the same filly and not nearly as good as Z.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

The only real shame is Z's connections. Rachels know she is not the same and they have really just run her accordingly. Look at the horse who tested her at Monmouth last time, look what she did today. Some people came on here saying she was actually good and moved up on dirt, yes she proved it today. The shame is this... Z would have not only won, but cruised in every race Rachel has been in this year. Dont get me wrong Rachel is HOY last year and like the article on DRF says nothing changes that, but she is not the same filly and not nearly as good as Z.

They certainly have run a pretty weak campaign. So perhaps you are right in saying that they believe (as you and others do) that she is significantly worse than last year. Personally, I don't see it.
Her performances last year were overrated by many.
Her performances this year are being underrated by many.

Not every winning performance is outstanding and not every second place performance is a barrel of crap. If you look at her last few races this year (including today's) I don't see how it puts her that much behind where she was last year. She wasn't Ruffian last year, no matter how much some people wanted her to be, and she isn't a pile of poo this year.....no matter how much Zenyatta's legions of worshipers might want her to be.

[Princess Doreen]

The first quarter was too fast. LAT came at Rachel hammer and tong. Rachel didn't win, but she made LAT yell uncle. Persistently was sitting chilly stalking the pace, Alan knew when to open up. It was devastating to see Rachel's lead dwindle to nothing. That final 1/16 was run in slow motion - she was barely lifting her feet off the ground, but she kept running on heart aand class alone.

And, I don't see anything wrong with the ride Calvin gave her. The issue about the use of the whip is a non-issue. It's a padded whip that she barely felt.

Rachel - you always perform like a champion, and today was no exception. Even in defeat, you are amazing. And, as this tired warrior was walking slowly back to the barn, the crowd gave her a well-deserved standing ovation.

On to the BC Distaff? (or whatever they are now calling it)

[dagolfer33]

I just heard all the Z haters breathe a collective sigh of relief. Now we will never get to see the beatdown....ah...I mean the matchup in the classic.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

I just heard all the Z haters breathe a collective sigh of relief. Now we will never get to see the beatdown....ah...I mean the matchup in the classic.

Z's connections are pitiful. She wins this race by, hmmm 15 if she comes.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Z's connections are pitiful. She wins this race by, hmmm 15 if she comes.

She wins by a measured head not 15, you should know this by now, she runs down to her competition. She's too nice, she doesn't want to embaress either filly by being lumped in with St. Trinians...oh wrong horse she is actually just above average, anyway you get the idea.

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Z's connections are pitiful. She wins this race by, hmmm 15 if she comes.

F the connections of both horses, to me the connections are a wash.

[10 pnt move up]

The Beyer just came back, looks like 111. See SHE never can run slow.

Hey we found a winner who can run a slower race than Richards Kid, who knew.

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Z's connections are pitiful. She wins this race by, hmmm 15 if she comes.

F the connections of both horses, to me the connections are a wash.
It's all about the horses and what they do on the track.

[cmorioles]

95 Beyer for now.