8/29 (SAR): Personal Ensign S. (G1)

[CSC]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I have been exchanging emails with there leader for about a week now. The guy is a clown and clueless, he darts me for NO REASSON AT ALL. Then in his emails to me, he is actually bringing up other posters and asking me questions about them, basicley telling me to spill it and I can return.

I'd love to hear his excuses today, they should be very entertaining, let me know.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by CSC

I'd love to hear his excuses today, he should be very entertaining tonite, let me know.

It'll ALL be about who Z is DUCKING, trust me.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

It'll ALL be about who Z is DUCKING, trust me.

The classic is out, I can't see them throwing her in at 1 1/4 again, the pace scenario will be alot more challenging at CD.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by CSC

The classic is out, I can't see them throwing her in at 1 1/4 again, the pace scenario will be alot more challenging at CD.

What are you delusional? When was the CLASSIC ever IN? Wasn't it clear she was done when Little Z bounced her? It was the SPIN by the BEYERITES, who desperately needed her to return to some semblance of last year's form, especially after their other darling, QR, got beat, that kept that CLASSIC talk for her going. She NEVER had a shot in the Classic.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

What are you delusional? When was the CLASSIC ever IN? Wasn't it clear she was done when Little Z bounced her? It was the SPIN by the BEYERITES, who desperately needed her to return to some semblance of last year's form, especially after their other darling, QR, got beat, that kept that CLASSIC talk for her going. She NEVER had a shot in the Classic.

This is Derbytrial isn't it? She will be heading for the classic until Jess invents a palatable excuse not to.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

What are you delusional? When was the CLASSIC ever IN? Wasn't it clear she was done when Little Z bounced her? It was the SPIN by the BEYERITES, who desperately needed her to return to some semblance of last year's form, especially after their other darling, QR, got beat, that kept that CLASSIC talk for her going. She NEVER had a shot in the Classic.

why do you say that? rachel had a hell of a campaign last year, hoy worthy. any horse would have been hard pressed to repeat such a year. whatever she does this year has nothing to do with last year. if the saints don't repeat, do they lose last years super bowl? i haven't understood this reasoning from anyone at all this year. rachel did what she did, an unreal 3 yo campaign for a filly-it doesn't require backing up. i thought you considered yourself a pro at this game? you sound like a rank amateur when you start this line.

it's a shame, i think they have completely messed up with rachel this year.

[RockHardTen1985]

The only real shame is Z's connections. Rachels know she is not the same and they have really just run her accordingly. Look at the horse who tested her at Monmouth last time, look what she did today. Some people came on here saying she was actually good and moved up on dirt, yes she proved it today. The shame is this... Z would have not only won, but cruised in every race Rachel has been in this year. Dont get me wrong Rachel is HOY last year and like the article on DRF says nothing changes that, but she is not the same filly and not nearly as good as Z.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

The only real shame is Z's connections. Rachels know she is not the same and they have really just run her accordingly. Look at the horse who tested her at Monmouth last time, look what she did today. Some people came on here saying she was actually good and moved up on dirt, yes she proved it today. The shame is this... Z would have not only won, but cruised in every race Rachel has been in this year. Dont get me wrong Rachel is HOY last year and like the article on DRF says nothing changes that, but she is not the same filly and not nearly as good as Z.

They certainly have run a pretty weak campaign. So perhaps you are right in saying that they believe (as you and others do) that she is significantly worse than last year. Personally, I don't see it.
Her performances last year were overrated by many.
Her performances this year are being underrated by many.

Not every winning performance is outstanding and not every second place performance is a barrel of crap. If you look at her last few races this year (including today's) I don't see how it puts her that much behind where she was last year. She wasn't Ruffian last year, no matter how much some people wanted her to be, and she isn't a pile of poo this year.....no matter how much Zenyatta's legions of worshipers might want her to be.

[dagolfer33]

I just heard all the Z haters breathe a collective sigh of relief. Now we will never get to see the beatdown....ah...I mean the matchup in the classic.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

I just heard all the Z haters breathe a collective sigh of relief. Now we will never get to see the beatdown....ah...I mean the matchup in the classic.

Z's connections are pitiful. She wins this race by, hmmm 15 if she comes.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Z's connections are pitiful. She wins this race by, hmmm 15 if she comes.

She wins by a measured head not 15, you should know this by now, she runs down to her competition. She's too nice, she doesn't want to embaress either filly by being lumped in with St. Trinians...oh wrong horse she is actually just above average, anyway you get the idea.

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Z's connections are pitiful. She wins this race by, hmmm 15 if she comes.

F the connections of both horses, to me the connections are a wash.

[10 pnt move up]

The Beyer just came back, looks like 111. See SHE never can run slow.

Hey we found a winner who can run a slower race than Richards Kid, who knew.

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Z's connections are pitiful. She wins this race by, hmmm 15 if she comes.

F the connections of both horses, to me the connections are a wash.
It's all about the horses and what they do on the track.

[cmorioles]

95 Beyer for now.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by CSC

I'd love to hear his excuses today, they should be very entertaining, let me know.

Excuses for your pick - the Marty Wolfson horse who got the trip of a lifetime off of a mind-boggling pace battle and still couldn't hit the board?

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

- the Marty Wolfson horse who got the trip of a lifetime off of a mind-boggling pace battle and still couldn't hit the board?

That's the female Ice Box. She needs everything to collapse to win a race.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Excuses for your pick - the Marty Wolfson horse who got the trip of a lifetime off of a mind-boggling pace battle and still couldn't hit the board?

Yeah, I had the right idea but I went against my own wisdom of betting Wolfson horses away from Florida. Atleast I put my money inline with my opinions, I thought they were overbet and overrated and I should have bet the all button to win other than the 2 favs, that was my mistake. What can I say, I didn't think the Phipps horse could jump up that much, but I did give her a 2nd look and I still couldn't make a case for her.

[King Glorious]

She has none of the accelleration she used to have. It wasn't the 10f that got her beat. It's that she's taken a couple of steps back. If this race had been 9f, she might have won it but it wouldn't have been anything like what we saw from her last year. Running like this, she wouldn't win the Distaff. She's a shadow of her former self. They went 1:12.02 and 1:37.54 That's hardly suicidal. Even going that slow, she had nothing left. The final was 2:04.49 so it took her over 27 seconds for her final quarter. They actually made Afleet Express look like he was flying.