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[slotdirt]

Barry Sanders won a playoff game in 1991. Count it.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Barry Sanders won a playoff game in 1991. Count it.

Wow. Didn't remember that. So, in his entire career - he won only a single playoff game.

He played on some truly miserable teams after that. There were years when he was probably the single best player in the entire league - and his team was 5-11 or 6-10.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

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[slotdirt]

The Lions made the playoffs something like five times in the 90's. Those were legitimately the glory years of the franchise in the post-merger era. Nothing even close to a winning record since 2001 when Paul Edinger hit a 55-ish yard field goal to beat the Lions - and knock them out of the playoffs - with like 20 seconds left in the last week of the season. BIll Ford Sr. hired Matt Millen like a week later and the rest, as they say, is history.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Imagine if he played on those Cowboys teams that Emmit Smith played on.

They had an absolutely devastating offensive line. Probably the best offensive line I've ever seen. Yet Troy Aikman, Emmit Smith, Micheal Irvin, and Alvin Harper got all the credit for their offensive success ... those four were all overrated as hell .. but obviously very solid players.

They also had a pretty damn good defense in Dallas.

The fact that Troy Aikman only managed to win 3 Super Bowls with what he had around them there shows either A.) how hard it is to win a Super Bowl or B.) how much of a loser Aikman is.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Imagine if he played on those Cowboys teams that Emmit Smith played on.

They had an absolutely devastating offensive line. Probably the best offensive line I've ever seen. Yet Troy Aikman, Emmit Smith, Micheal Irvin, and Alvin Harper got all the credit for their offensive success ... those four were all overrated as hell .. but obviously very solid players.

They also had a pretty damn good defense in Dallas.

The fact that Troy Aikman only managed to win 3 Super Bowls with what he had around them there shows either A.) how hard it is to win a Super Bowl or B.) how much of a loser Aikman is.

You are right on the Cowboys skill guys getting overrated by the lineman but the 91-92 Redskins is the best line I have ever seen.

Barry was a defensive killer, his own defense that is. His style of running meant it was 3 and out or a quick drive with a long run. Either way the defense was back out there quickly. That isn't the formula for winning football games, 4 yards in a cloud of dust is. I'd like to see how many teams have made it far in the playoffs with as many runs for zero or negative yards as Sanders routinely had. I bet the list is short cause that isn't the way to win football games. Also, Barry's line was not bad like people make it out to be, he had 1-2 Pro Bowlers on his line virtually every year he was there. It was his own style of always looking for the big play that caused so many runs for negative yards.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I don't think it puts that much pressure on the defense. The Bills kept winning the AFC Championship game every year and they'd lose the time of possession battle huge every game.

Here's Sanders final year in college - it's widely regarded as the single greatest year ever by a college football player. I think pretty much everyone but me considers it that anyway....

1. Barry Sanders, Oklahoma State (1988)

The only serious question when composing this list was "Who's No. 2?" Sanders season was the only college football player's campaign to rank in ESPN.com's "End of the Century" list covering all sports. Rattle this off next time your bar buddies say someone's having a great season:

# Sanders rushed for 2,628 yards, an NCAA record.

# He had 3,249 total yards, an NCAA record.

# Sanders scored 39 TDs (37 rushing, 1 kick return, 1 punt return), an NCAA record.

# He averaged 7.6 yards per carry.

# He rushed for 300+ yards in four games.

That was during the 11-game regular season. In the Holiday Bowl against Wyoming, he ran for 222 yards and 5 TDs. In three quarters. He sat out the fourth, as OSU won 62-14.

Oklahoma State finished the year ranked #11 in the country. They lost to only Nebraska and Oklahoma.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Imagine if he played on those Cowboys teams that Emmit Smith played on.

They had an absolutely devastating offensive line. Probably the best offensive line I've ever seen. Yet Troy Aikman, Emmit Smith, Micheal Irvin, and Alvin Harper got all the credit for their offensive success ... those four were all overrated as hell .. but obviously very solid players.

They also had a pretty damn good defense in Dallas.

The fact that Troy Aikman only managed to win 3 Super Bowls with what he had around them there shows either A.) how hard it is to win a Super Bowl or B.) how much of a loser Aikman is.

as much as it pains me to say it... Troy Aikman was a terrific QB.

I went to a lot of Eagles / Cowboys game in the 90's and the Cowgirls O-line was superb. You could literally drive a truck through the holes they would create. Not to say Emmit wasnt a great running back, but any running back with the skill level to play in the NFL would have THRIVED with that line.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I went to a lot of Eagles / Cowboys game in the 90's and the Cowgirls O-line was superb. You could literally drive a truck through the holes they would create. Not to say Emmit wasnt a great running back, but any running back with the skill level to play in the NFL would have THRIVED with that line.

Yes, his career QB rating of 81.6 behind one of the greatest lines ever assembled with tons of weapons at his disposal sure is terrific. Kevin Kolb is terrible but he might beat 81.6 this year.