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Old 08-16-2010, 09:35 AM
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No one is arguing the premise of religious freedom. But simply asked, "Why there."

We're supposed to be sensitive, but where is the sensitivity in return?!

NYC is a union town. NOTHING gets done without a union doing it. Doubt they'll find any union willing to work on that project. But the illustrious mayor (who got himself a 3rd term and will probably lobby for a 4th) will probably spearhead some law that will allow non-union workers to build that mosque. Then watch WWIII on the streets of NYC. NYC union workers are not to be messed with.

PrezzBO would do best to stay out of it. We know what The First Amendment is all about - he doesn't need to preach or remind us of it. He has opened up a political donnybrook with every candidate in November feeling it necessary to weigh in the subject. National poll shows 65% of population not in favor of having the mosque where the Iman proposes.
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Old 08-16-2010, 10:25 AM
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No one is arguing the premise of religious freedom. But simply asked, "Why there."

We're supposed to be sensitive, but where is the sensitivity in return?!

NYC is a union town. NOTHING gets done without a union doing it. Doubt they'll find any union willing to work on that project. But the illustrious mayor (who got himself a 3rd term and will probably lobby for a 4th) will probably spearhead some law that will allow non-union workers to build that mosque. Then watch WWIII on the streets of NYC. NYC union workers are not to be messed with.

PrezzBO would do best to stay out of it. We know what The First Amendment is all about - he doesn't need to preach or remind us of it. He has opened up a political donnybrook with every candidate in November feeling it necessary to weigh in the subject. National poll shows 65% of population not in favor of having the mosque where the Iman proposes.


And 100% of the population doesn't want to pay taxes, but you know that the majority doesn't always rule.

I'm not addressing this at you, but they have the LEGAL right to build this wherever they want. It's more hypocrosy from the right when they clutch the Constitution when it involves their precious guns but want to ignore it when they don't happen to agree.
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Old 08-16-2010, 10:44 AM
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And 100% of the population doesn't want to pay taxes, but you know that the majority doesn't always rule.

I'm not addressing this at you, but they have the LEGAL right to build this wherever they want. It's more hypocrosy from the right when they clutch the Constitution when it involves their precious guns but want to ignore it when they don't happen to agree.
No one here and very few from the right are denying the muslms have a constitutional right to build. We're just not coming out in support of it and under the first ammendment that expression of non-support is also a right.

And BTW second ammendment rights in Chicago have been denied for over 20 years and it took a patient African American with the last name McDonald over 10years to 'right' that 'wrong'.
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Old 08-16-2010, 10:46 AM
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And 100% of the population doesn't want to pay taxes, but you know that the majority doesn't always rule.

I'm not addressing this at you, but they have the LEGAL right to build this wherever they want. It's more hypocrosy from the right when they clutch the Constitution when it involves their precious guns but want to ignore it when they don't happen to agree.
No one is ignoring the constitution rights, just trying to explain why the loaction is a poor choice and why those who agree that it is a poor location don't believe that "all muslims are terrorists".
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:07 AM
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And 100% of the population doesn't want to pay taxes, but you know that the majority doesn't always rule.

I'm not addressing this at you, but they have the LEGAL right to build this wherever they want. It's more hypocrosy from the right when they clutch the Constitution when it involves their precious guns but want to ignore it when they don't happen to agree.
Much the same as ElPrezBo embraces the constitution when it suits his needs - albeit infrequently?

It shouldn't be a right vs. left issue. It should be a right vs. wrong issue, and it's just flat out WRONG to build that building where they want to put it. And, is it really just a mosque? It's supposed to be a cultural center with lots of other things going on - even a swimming pool. How does religious freedom play into that?

The vast majority of Muslims live in Bay Ridge Brooklyn. I would think a cultural center in that location would be of more benefit.

I doubt the Muslims in charge of this project could give two hoots in hell over the sensitivity of Americans.
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Old 08-16-2010, 04:05 PM
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Much the same as ElPrezBo embraces the constitution when it suits his needs - albeit infrequently?

It shouldn't be a right vs. left issue.
Should be a zoning issue. Period. The Public doesn't want it there. Build the hate center further away from the 9/11 site. Build 10 in Newark. Nobody will probably care that much.
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Old 08-16-2010, 03:54 PM
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And 100% of the population doesn't want to pay taxes, but you know that the majority doesn't always rule.

I'm not addressing this at you, but they have the LEGAL right to build this wherever they want.
If that's true, then why did 9 people have to vote on it? Seems the public does have a say where something can be built. There is public input on zoning.
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:36 PM
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No one is arguing the premise of religious freedom. But simply asked, "Why there."
Because the Muslim population of that mosque predates the building of the World Trade Center. There are other mosques near WTC site. Because these Americans live and work and pray in their neighborhood, a neighborhood that was blown to bits by terrorists on 9-11. Because they've been in that location forever - which nobody cared about until the right wing whackjobs decided to scream DEATH TO AMERICA OHMYGAWD THE EVIL MUSLIMS - and they simply want to update and expand a building that is already an integral part of the community. They are already there, and have been there.
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:40 PM
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Because the Muslim population of that mosque predates the building of the World Trade Center. There are other mosques near WTC site. Because these Americans live and work and pray in their neighborhood, a neighborhood that was blown to bits by terrorists on 9-11. Because they've been in that location forever - which nobody cared about until the right wing whackjobs decided to scream DEATH TO AMERICA OHMYGAWD THE EVIL MUSLIMS - and they simply want to update and expand a building that is already an integral part of the community. They are already there, and have been there.

Then why build a second mosque. Why not say we respect our neighbors and we'll expand?
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