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Old 08-16-2010, 08:30 AM
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More Crow for Chuck. Another gem.

Now 8-5
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:39 AM
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More Crow for Chuck. Another gem.

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He was due since his last performance was so terrible.


Maybe there is a way that the Phillies can skip him every other turn in the rotation? He can throw a bullpen session on his typical bad day on the rotation, then play in the game where he'll go 6 2/3 and give up only 1 Earned Run.

He had some decent location last night. He's just the type of pitcher that NEEDS to have his location spot on, because his stuff isnt that good.
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:52 AM
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He was due since his last performance was so terrible.


Maybe there is a way that the Phillies can skip him every other turn in the rotation? He can throw a bullpen session on his typical bad day on the rotation, then play in the game where he'll go 6 2/3 and give up only 1 Earned Run.

He had some decent location last night. He's just the type of pitcher that NEEDS to have his location spot on, because his stuff isnt that good.
He lucked out of the 1st two jams he got in last night. Of course it helps the Mets are last in the NL in all offensive catagories since the begining of July. But he has pitched better lately but is still holding on by a thread. the only reason he hasn't been replaced is the phils dont have anyone else and he works cheap. His w/l record is close to meaningless since he is getting 6 runs of support a game.


Those Who Need Support
by Eric Seidman

On August 5, Felix Hernandez toed the rubber against the division-rival Texas Rangers. Hernandez entered the game with a fantastic 2.79 ERA, and peripherals almost exactly in line with those posted a year ago, when he finished second to Zack Greinke in the American League Cy Young Award voting. The King lasted 6 2/3 innings against the Rangers, allowing three runs on eight hits. The effort might not have been his best, but the line was more than respectable against such an offense-happy club, and if his teammates were anywhere near average offensively, one might have even been able to say that Hernandez kept his team in the game. Unfortunately, the Seattle Mariners mustered zero runs of support for their ace, who would go on to record a loss.

Hernandez was no stranger to a lack of support. In his previous start, he scattered three runs over seven innings against a very solid Twins team and received, again, zero runs of support, recording another loss. On the season, Hernandez has a 2.71 ERA and just a 7-8 W-L record. Wins and losses are in no way the best measures of pitcher performance, but it still looks weird in spite of this knowledge to see such a low ERA alongside such an uninspiring record. But the situation with Hernandez lends perfect credence to the specific reason that wins and losses are not good proxies for success: run support. A pitcher can go five innings, give up seven runs, but be lucky enough that his team scores eight and walk away with a win. Or, Hernandez can pitch wonderfully, receive zero runs of support, and lose, simply because a pitcher decision can’t be handed to an offense.

In his eight losses, Hernandez has received—ready for this—a whopping seven runs of support. Yes, seven, and in four of the losses the Mariners have failed to score for him. Now, as I mentioned, a pitcher is not defined by his record, but it becomes very frustrating when dynamite pitchers end up with substandard won-lost marks when one considers how much this measure plays into the end-of-season awards. As Tom Tango recently showed, Hernandez's seasonal numbers are eerily similar to those posted a year ago; and when I say eerily similar, I mean they are really, really, really similar. The big difference is that last year he finished the season 19-5, while he seems more in line for something like an 11-13 record this season.


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King Cole isnt too far behind in run support

threw a complete game 5 hit 1 ER. Mets won 1-0
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