Another Obama brilliant move

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Are you people expecting a miracle from this imbecile who is ruining this country everyday?

I expected exactly what we are getting. A President who supports building the mosque despite who it offends but doesn't support a State who is willing to do the Fed's job and enforce immigration laws because of who it may offend.

Geez couldn't someone have told him to say 'while the U.S. constitution ensures Muslms the right to build a mosque on private property I would suggest they be more sensitive to the families of 911 victims and not build near ground zero.' I know he doesn't have it in him but in this case perhaps he should have brought out the teleprompter he's so fond of and read it.

[notyep59]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I expected exactly what we are getting. A President who supports building the mosque despite who it offends but doesn't support a State who is willing to do the Fed's job and enforce immigration laws because of who it may offend.

Geez couldn't someone have told him to say 'while the U.S. constitution ensures Muslms the right to build a mosque on private property I would suggest they be more sensitive to the families of 911 victims and not build near ground zero.' I know he doesn't have it in him but in this case perhaps he should have brought out the teleprompter he's so fond of and read it.

another great post.....any time you get to throw "teleprompter" in there , you should feel like you've accomplished something for the betterment of the world. you and nascar should be so proud to be on the same team.

[Cannon Shell]

If it was a GOP idea to cut food stamps, Riot would be 1-9 to be on the warpath.

Of course I was told by her that food stamps were actually economic stimulus so i guess this will hurt the economy...

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If it was a GOP idea to cut food stamps, Riot would be 1-9 to be on the warpath.

Dunno about Riot, but I was furious when they cut them recently, and am equally furious that they're going to do it again.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Of course I was told by her that food stamps were actually economic stimulus so i guess this will hurt the economy...

This is true. You do know that they actually are good to stimulate the economy, right?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Dunno about Riot, but I was furious when they cut them recently, and am equally furious that they're going to do it again.



This is true. You do know that they actually are good to stimulate the economy, right?

Simply dropping money out of airplanes is better stimulus than food stamps. The govt reimbursing stores for food that they paid farmers to produce isnt really stimulus, it is subsidy.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Simply dropping money out of airplanes is better stimulus than food stamps. The govt reimbursing stores for food that they paid farmers to produce isnt really stimulus, it is subsidy.

Well of course it is, but as far as social services that help the poor -- it's great stimulus, which is what I meant and what I should've said.

If you're of the mind that the govt. helping the poor eat is a bad idea altogether, then surely they're a bad idea -- but if we're providing social services to poor people, then food stamps are excellent as it provides food, helps local businesses, and goes back to those providing and shipping the food. It's a very solid social service program.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Well of course it is, but as far as social services that help the poor -- it's great stimulus, which is what I meant and what I should've said.

If you're of the mind that the govt. helping the poor eat is a bad idea altogether, then surely they're a bad idea -- but if we're providing social services to poor people, then food stamps are excellent as it provides food, helps local businesses, and goes back to those providing and shipping the food. It's a very solid social service program.

Don't confuse social services with stimulus. Putting comments like the bolded are petty. I didn't say that food stamp programs arent worthy causes. But as stimulus they are hardly of any value as the cost of the social programs far outweighs the stimulitive effect. It doesn't create sustainable growth or industry, it simply subsidizes what is already there. Once the food stamps are taken away or as in this case cut, what happens to the businesses supposedly helped?

The food providers are in most cases already getting paid by the govt, in many cases to not produce food.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

This is true. You do know that they actually are good to stimulate the economy, right?

especially when they're sold for 50 cents on the dollar and go for crack to keep momma happy!

Because they who buy the food stamps invest?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If it was a GOP idea to cut food stamps, Riot would be 1-9 to be on the warpath.

Of course I was told by her that food stamps were actually economic stimulus so i guess this will hurt the economy...

Yes, food stamps and unemployment assistance generate about $1.67 for each dollar spent in the economy, and tax cuts generate about 30 cents of economic growth for each dollar spent.

Of course you knew that

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, food stamps and unemployment assistance generate about $1.67 for each dollar spent in the economy, and tax cuts generate about 30 cents of economic growth for each dollar spent.

Of course you knew that

what happens when food stamp money is diverted to subsidize fruit for rich kids? More or less?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

what happens when food stamp money is diverted to subsidize fruit for rich kids? More or less?

I think it's wrong to cut food stamp money. I think fruit and veggies for snacks for kids in school is great. Better than the soda and candy and McDonalds' crap in some schools now.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I think it's wrong to cut food stamp money. I think fruit and veggies for snacks for kids in school is great. Better than the soda and candy and McDonalds' crap in some schools now.

You're ignoring facts again. LAKE GENEVA is getting a grant!!! Kids around here are Colorado healthy and Burlington/everywhere else in WI maybe could use it but let's sink our heads into the sand (i'll loosen it up w/the Cobalt) and pretend.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by notyep59

another great post.....any time you get to throw "teleprompter" in there , you should feel like you've accomplished something for the betterment of the world. you and nascar should be so proud to be on the same team.

Im proud to be on the same team as dellinger63. At I know two people here have some common sense.

[notyep59]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Im proud to be on the same team as dellinger63. At I know two people here have some common sense.

i'm sure dell is proud, knowing you got his back and all..

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by notyep59

another great post.....any time you get to throw "teleprompter" in there , you should feel like you've accomplished something for the betterment of the world. you and nascar should be so proud to be on the same team.

thanks. teleprompter is nothing compared to my Carter schtick douche bag!

and Nascar is islamic for GTFOOH. for those waiting their lunchtime fruit and nuts.

[notyep59]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

thanks. teleprompter is nothing compared to my Carter schtick douche bag!

and Nascar is islamic for GTFOOH. for those waiting their lunchtime fruit and nuts.

douche bag????? that's the best you got?? try to include "birth certificate" and "illegal aunt" in your next post and maybe call me a "ball sack" and you can enjoy the rest of your day!! if you invite nascar to your 12th birthday party, don't play "pin the tail on the donkey", because you both will end up in the e.r. with holes all over your body.