Best Maiden Race of the meet so far...

ateamstupid · #1 08-12-2010, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

All these well-bred firsters are really working quite well, as if at least one or two of them will be good ones.

Have you seen them in the mornings?

Betsy · #2 08-12-2010, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Have you seen them in the mornings?

No...........but based on the workouts listed, it seems like they are all working well. Darley has a Bernardini Briswatch on their site, so I can check the PPs of his upcoming runners (and other horses).

GPK · #3 08-12-2010, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Betsy

No...........but based on the workouts listed, it seems like they are all working well. Darley has a Bernardini Briswatch on their site, so I can check the PPs of his upcoming runners (and other horses).

If you are paying attention to anything other than the spacing of the works, it's really a waste of time imo.

Antitrust32 · #4 08-12-2010, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK

If you are paying attention to anything other than the spacing of the works, it's really a waste of time imo.

the only time I think its helpful to look at works is for Maidens & first time starters. just my opinion but I like to see a first time starter throw a bullet work before the race..

all other races works are meaningless for me... except for the spacing of them.

jms62 · #5 08-12-2010, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

the only time I think its helpful to look at works is for Maidens & first time starters. just my opinion but I like to see a first time starter throw a bullet work before the race..

all other races works are meaningless for me... except for the spacing of them.

I demand 5 furlong works and hopefully a bullet within the last month

GPK · #6 08-12-2010, 08:23 AM

Listening to a trainer and getting the word from the backside is generally the best way to bet firsters.

jms62 · #7 08-12-2010, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK

Listening to a trainer and getting the word from the backside is generally the best way to bet firsters.

Antitrust32 · #8 08-12-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK

Listening to a trainer and getting the word from the backside is generally the best way to bet firsters.

listening to Payson Dave is better than listening to the trainers IMO.

sometimes you can get a good tip on firsters though.

But I agree with jms. If I'm going to put $ on a firster, I want to see a bullet in the final work or two, and I prefer to see it at 5 furlongs, not 3 furlongs.

But I'm not much of a handicapper at all, I could be way off base.

But Payson Dave and that workout (and sometimes breeding and trainer 1st time stats) are all I'll bet firsters off of.

Usually, maiden races like this are just best to enjoy without a wager though... IMO

Port Conway Lane · #9 08-12-2010, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK

If you are paying attention to anything other than the spacing of the works, it's really a waste of time imo.

So what are supposed to be well spaced works? I see the closer look guys say works are "well spaced" but I've neglected to take note.

I give more weight to the most recent workout.

GPK · #10 08-12-2010, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

So what are supposed to be well spaced works? I see the closer look guys say works are "well spaced" but I've neglected to take note.

I give more weight to the most recent workout.

I look for works spaced about 7 days apart. Obviously there are different factors in play that may explain a missed work.

gales0678 · #11 08-12-2010, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK

I look for works spaced about 7 days apart. Obviously there are different factors in play that may explain a missed work.

kev you gotta bear in mind that they can play games too with the spacing of works , just like they do with the times

NTamm1215 · #12 08-12-2010, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

kev you gotta bear in mind that they can play games too with the spacing of works , just like they do with the times

Screw all that crap, Gales, WE WANT EDDIE K UPDATES!!!!!

nt

ateamstupid · #13 08-12-2010, 12:26 PM

I hardly ever get a bigger laugh at the track than when I see someone point to the Form and go "he's working well" or "he's working like crap" as if they've seen the horse in the morning. Bullet works/# of works mean nothing without the context of the horse's trainer, and even then they're of minimal value. Assuming that a horse is working well because of 'fast' workouts/working badly because of 'slow' ones is a quick way to the poorhouse.

Betsy · #14 08-12-2010, 05:39 PM

I'm surprised Pletcher is running Stay Thirsty at 6 furlongs, but I suppose there weren't any 7 furlong races scheduled for awhile.

Betsy · #15 08-12-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK

If you are paying attention to anything other than the spacing of the works, it's really a waste of time imo.

What do you look for in a work? I actually figured that Stay Thirsty was going to run soon based on his last work, 51 and change. Prior to that he'd worked in 48 and change, breezing, so I figured Pletcher was just sending him out for some excercise. Of course he already has experience.............