Who beats Zenyatta if the BC was at SA this year?

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Trust me, all the good synthetic horses are in Europe racing on turf - the same place all of the good turf horses happen to be.

Then why didn't those good synthetic horses show up for the $10 Mil Dubai World Cup? I'm not questioning they fact that good turf horses in Europe wouldn't show up and run well on the Pro-Ride in the classic, but I don't think they would be any better than Zenyatta.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by smuthg

Then why didn't those good synthetic horses show up for the $10 Mil Dubai World Cup? I'm not questioning they fact that good turf horses in Europe wouldn't show up and run well on the Pro-Ride in the classic, but I don't think they would be any better than Zenyatta.

Gio Ponti and Twice Over were both off the board behind huge longshots in that stupid $10 Dubai race .. and further - they ran like a $6 million turf race and a $5 million turf race or something insane the same day.

Also - the best horses in Europe are typically given the winter off.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Gio Ponti and Twice Over were both off the board behind huge longshots in that stupid $10 Dubai race .. and further - they ran like a $6 million turf race and a $5 million turf race or something insane the same day.

Also - the best horses in Europe are typically given the winter off.

Name 3 who would beat her for sure on synthetics, your just saying the best are in Europe... So please just name 3.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Name 3 who would beat her for sure on synthetics, your just saying the best are in Europe... So please just name 3.

3 out of any four that come... and she'd be home and they'd have to travel.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

3 out of any four that come... and she'd be home and they'd have to travel.

Do annoying facebook people really make you go from being a Zenyatta fan, to the biggest hater around? Do you watch ESPN Cold Pizza/First n Ten/whatever its called now. You remind me of the D. HATER.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Gio Ponti and Twice Over were both off the board behind huge longshots in that stupid $10 Dubai race .. and further - they ran like a $6 million turf race and a $5 million turf race or something insane the same day.

Also - the best horses in Europe are typically given the winter off.

didn't Gio run 4th beaten about a length? not like he was up the track...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by smuthg

didn't Gio run 4th beaten about a length? not like he was up the track...

Didn't our dirt horses win that race in a total laugher almost every single year?

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Didn't our dirt horses win that race in a total laugher almost every single year?

and they were up the track on the new stuff... if the argument is Z v. Europeans on the "pro-ride", I'll grant the shipping is an issue, but I don't think there are an infinate number of horses in Europe that could be at Z on Pro-Ride... I realize that St. Trianians was nothing over there, and only was beat a head, etc...

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by smuthg

I realize that St. Trianians was nothing over there, and only was beat a head, etc...

Do we need to account for her trainer here at all?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Do we need to account for her trainer here at all?

Z is trained by a guy with a lifetime profitable ROI who transformed Life Is Sweet from a weak Eastern turf and syn horse with Mott into a BC Distaff winner and one who wasn't losing far to Zenyatta in races where both of them were impacted by poor setups for deep closers.