Questions for Zenyatta Fans. . .

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by pba1817

You losers can't even embrace something that is bringing positive attention to your beloved sport... She is great, beat all the best last year in the BCC and will probably be right there again this year with the speed ball pigs who are gonna stop at 1 1/4 in November at CD.

Positive attention?

By that I assume you mean dopey pretty horsey people that don't bet.

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Positive attention?

By that I assume you mean dopey pretty horsey people that don't bet.

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by pba1817

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

Bzzz we dont need fans we need gamblers.

[DerbyCat]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Bzzz we dont need fans we need gamblers.

Actually, the sport does need FANS, and gamblers, and owners, and leadership, and a lot of other things. It needs balance and sports like the NFL and MLB and even freakin' Major League Soccer have those things. I was just at a conference that the NFL Commissioner spoke at (he's surprisingly a very soft spoken man) and he talked about the how important the balance is between all user groups and how important the fans are. Without the fans, revenue drops - you need the balance. The sport of horse racing is really lacking in this balance.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by DerbyCat

Actually, the sport does need FANS, and gamblers, and owners, and leadership, and a lot of other things. It needs balance and sports like the NFL and MLB and even freakin' Major League Soccer have those things. I was just at a conference that the NFL Commissioner spoke at (he's surprisingly a very soft spoken man) and he talked about the how important the balance is between all user groups and how important the fans are. Without the fans, revenue drops - you need the balance. The sport of horse racing is really lacking in this balance.

i dont know how you can even go around comparing horse racing & the NFL?

They are two completely seperate products that have two completely different goals.

one is based purely on gambling.. one is based on TV contract and ticket sales.

apples and diet soda... (apples & oranges are more similar than NFL and horse racing)

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by pba1817

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

I'm going to take a wild stab here, but marketing isn't your chosen profession, correct?

[tiggerv]

The surface is the answer. "Toying" has nothing to do with it.

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I'm going to take a wild stab here, but marketing isn't your chosen profession, correct?

Actually it is...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pba1817

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

the nfl isn't funded by gamblers. not much of a comparison between the biggest sport in the country and horse racing, which is absolutely funded by gamblers and doesn't have the tv saturation and marketing. racing doesn't need people seeking entertainment, it needs people willing to lay some money down on the horses.
a big crowd showed at del mar yesterday, but how was the handle?

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the nfl isn't funded by gamblers. not much of a comparison between the biggest sport in the country and horse racing, which is absolutely funded by gamblers and doesn't have the tv saturation and marketing. racing doesn't need people seeking entertainment, it needs people willing to lay some money down on the horses.
a big crowd showed at del mar yesterday, but how was the handle?

I would be willing to wager that the handle was better than any Saturday of the meet so far. Isn't that the point? To increase handle?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pba1817

I would be willing to wager that the handle was better than any Saturday of the meet so far. Isn't that the point? To increase handle?

absolutely! i haven't seen any of the numbers, i'd imagine handle was higher than a normal saturday. however, racing needs to find more than a horse running five times a year to get fans to show up.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by pba1817

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

You put a lot of undue wear-and-tear on my scroll-wheel.

Who cares about fly by night racing fans/pretty horsey people who don't bet and have no interest in even learning how to handicap?

Tommy Brady's so cute and the New England Patriots are 18-0 - Yay!!! I'm a football fan now!!

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You put a lot of undue wear-and-tear on my scroll-wheel.

Who cares about fly by night racing fans/pretty horsey people who don't bet and have no interest in even learning how to handicap?

Tommy Brady's so cute and the New England Patriots are 18-0 - Yay!!! I'm a football fan now!!

As long as they buy jerseys, tickets, and watch the games on TV. Who cares who they are?

Same focus should be placed upon horse racing, put the focus on entertaining the fans and increasing the experience when attending the races. Your handle will increase as a by product.

[Dahoss]

This is quite the analogy. Saying it's apples and oranges is being too nice.

[randallscott35]

I give up

Yeah I'm not going to knock adding casual fans to the sport. Adding a much larger fan base will get the attention of the networks, so on and so forth blah blah blah.

But to do that you need...

1. better management of the sport
2. lower takeout
3. removal of the tax man
4. braver owners
5. non-despicable owners and trainers with good stock
6. improved facilities
7. more fat charts

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yeah I'm not going to knock adding casual fans to the sport. Adding a much larger fan base will get the attention of the networks, so on and so forth blah blah blah.

But to do that you need...

1. better management of the sport
2. lower takeout
3. removal of the tax man
4. braver owners
5. non-despicable owners and trainers with good stock
6. improved facilities
7. more fat charts

Agreed 100%

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yeah I'm not going to knock adding casual fans to the sport. Adding a much larger fan base will get the attention of the networks, so on and so forth blah blah blah.

But to do that you need...

1. better management of the sport
2. lower takeout
3. removal of the tax man
4. braver owners
5. non-despicable owners and trainers with good stock
6. improved facilities
7. more fat charts

Coach, why bother? Randall has given up, it's all over now!!!

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Coach, why bother? Randall has given up, it's all over now!!!

He's sane for giving up. This sport is doomed.

[DerbyCat]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yeah I'm not going to knock adding casual fans to the sport. Adding a much larger fan base will get the attention of the networks, so on and so forth blah blah blah.

But to do that you need...

1. better management of the sport
2. lower takeout
3. removal of the tax man
4. braver owners
5. non-despicable owners and trainers with good stock
6. improved facilities
7. more fat charts

Coach knows his sh!t