8/7 (DMR): Clement L. Hirsch S. (G1)

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

How exactly is RA an afterthought?

Because she lost her first two off of a 9 month layoff for a guy who is a statistical deadbeat as a layoff trainer?

If St. Trinians simply broke cleanly in the Vanity - there's no possible way Zenyatta would still be undefeated.

Further, after watching the Whitney yesterday, how exactly could Quality Road win any race in which Rachel was entered? If anything he is the afterthought.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Further, after watching the Whitney yesterday, how exactly could Quality Road win any race in which Rachel was entered? If anything he is the afterthought.

I've concocted a crazy theory that the braid bead that was whipping around wildly and kept hitting his eyeball over and over while he was trying to run might have been an explanation for his horrendous performance.

If that isn't the case, he's hopeless.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Further, after watching the Whitney yesterday, how exactly could Quality Road win any race in which Rachel was entered? If anything he is the afterthought.

This is silly. He was flat, one time. I pray he comes back in the Woodward, then everything will be fine again.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

This is silly. He was flat, one time. I pray he comes back in the Woodward, then everything will be fine again.

Silly? He has never proven he wants that far outside of the silly 9f races at GP where speed has a HUGE advantage. Good luck betting him the rest of the year.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Silly? He has never proven he wants that far outside of the silly 9f races at GP where speed has a HUGE advantage. Good luck betting him the rest of the year.

Im not sure I would ever bet him, I mean say he comes back in the Woodward with a few bullets... I would have to assume he would be favored again, no?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im not sure I would ever bet him, I mean say he comes back in the Woodward with a few bullets... I would have to assume he would be favored again, no?

Not against Blame obviously. Under what circumstances is he ever beating him at 9f or longer?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Not against Blame obviously. Under what circumstances is he ever beating him at 9f or longer?

Why cant he have just had a bad day? I think he can beat Blame under the circumstances of JV just letting him roll, let the horse run... 23-46-110 clear lead, he went slow but was pressured from the outside. Maybe I just like him to much, Its hard for me to believe a plodder like Blame is this much better then QR all of the sudden, if this was so obvious why was Blame that price and QR odds on??

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Why cant he have just had a bad day? I think he can beat Blame under the circumstances of JV just letting him roll, let the horse run... 23-46-110 clear lead, he went slow but was pressured from the outside. Maybe I just like him to much, Its hard for me to believe a plodder like Blame is this much better then QR all of the sudden, if this was so obvious why was Blame that price and QR odds on??

That's a contradiction. There was NEVER a point where the chasers put any pressure on him; never a point where they cut into his lead or appeared to threaten him. 8:1 on the exacta.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Why cant he have just had a bad day? I think he can beat Blame under the circumstances of JV just letting him roll, let the horse run... 23-46-110 clear lead, he went slow but was pressured from the outside. Maybe I just like him to much, Its hard for me to believe a plodder like Blame is this much better then QR all of the sudden, if this was so obvious why was Blame that price and QR odds on??

I have no idea how long you have followed racing so I won't give you too much crap. How often do you see horses at the G1 level "just have a bad day" then revert right back to top form? I'll give you a clue...it isn't very often. But, to be honest, I don't think it was a bad day. I think it was a horse a tad past his best distance getting beaten by a better horse despite having things his own way.

As for your clear lead projection, that rarely works out either. The answer to a speed horse getting run down is not to go faster next time, but good luck with that theory.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Further, after watching the Whitney yesterday, how exactly could Quality Road win any race in which Rachel was entered? If anything he is the afterthought.

Coming to your senses, I see. Good for you. Let's expand this a bit: QR won't be a factor in the CLASSIC --- if he makes it there. Blame eats his lunch whenever he wants.

Rachel who?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Coming to your senses, I see. Good for you. Let's expand this a bit: QR won't be a factor in the CLASSIC --- if he makes it there. Blame eats his lunch whenever he wants.

Rachel who?

If you follow me, and you do, you know I've never been on the QR bandwagon. His 121 Beyer was a total fraud.

[tiggerv]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

If you follow me, and you do, you know I've never been on the QR bandwagon. His 121 Beyer was a total fraud.

Did you create a figure for yesterday's race yet? Early word was a 111 Beyer for Blame which seems way too high to me.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by tiggerv

Did you create a figure for yesterday's race yet? Early word was a 111 Beyer for Blame which seems way too high to me.

I do Saturday races on Monday, but it seems a little high to me. In any case, it will be a projection by any figure maker as the only route...thanks NYRA.