Zenyatta to the Beldame after Saturday

Scav · #1 08-05-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

So why is this acceptable? Synthetics are a part of the game, they run over synthetics at Keeneland, one could argue the best other then Toga.
Is it because people cant except change, or is it because Beyer people cant make figures the right way for synthetic races?

Its change

Our generation is fine with it, the old cranky people set in their ways just bitch and complain instead of educating themselves on it. It isn't like they can't just avoid it.

Bet you take a poll and people from 0-30 are fine with synthetics, people from 31-40 will be unfavored, and people 41+ the majority will hate it.

Dahoss · #2 08-05-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Its change

Our generation is fine with it, the old cranky people set in their ways just bitch and complain instead of educating themselves on it. It isn't like they can't just avoid it.

Bet you take a poll and people from 0-30 are fine with synthetics, people from 31-40 will be unfavored, and people 41+ the majority will hate it.

Dude, be serious for a second. Look at what Slotdirt is saying. The reason why dirt horses don't ship to California is the surface. That has nothing to do with people not accepting (or excepting) change. It's a third surface. Just like if the entire state if New York had only dirt races. You'd understand why the turf horses weren't shipping in to run.

Why people don't like synthetics for racing is an entirely different conversation.

10 pnt move up · #3 08-05-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Dude, be serious for a second. Look at what Slotdirt is saying. The reason why dirt horses don't ship to California is the surface. That has nothing to do with people not accepting (or excepting) change. It's a third surface. Just like if the entire state if New York had only dirt races. You'd understand why the turf horses weren't shipping in to run.

Why people don't like synthetics for racing is an entirely different conversation.

agree completely

though there is a perception that synthetic horses cant run on dirt and that synthetic horses are not fast, when its likely the opposite, most are being inhibited from running larger figures by synthetics.

Scav · #4 08-05-2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Dude, be serious for a second. Look at what Slotdirt is saying. The reason why dirt horses don't ship to California is the surface. That has nothing to do with people not accepting (or excepting) change. It's a third surface. Just like if the entire state if New York had only dirt races. You'd understand why the turf horses weren't shipping in to run.

Why people don't like synthetics for racing is an entirely different conversation.

I agree, I wasn't paying attention.

I also agree with why they don't go to California.

I would run a dirt horse at Hollywood, but not the others.

CSC · #5 08-05-2010, 11:33 AM

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I agree, I wasn't paying attention.

I also agree with why they don't go to California.

I would run a dirt horse at Hollywood, but not the others.

I did a quick scan of the 3 most prestigious races in So Cal, The Hollywood Gold Cup, The Pacific Classic and the Santa Anita Handicap, winners only. Only 2 eastern based horses have won any running of these races since 1995 Cigar and Skip Away before the sythetics age. If winners are any indication, the evidence does not show horses ship out west any more than they do now. Einstein shipped and won on rubber, so I see no difference they would ship out west more if it were dirt or atleast as it pertains to winners.

slotdirt · #6 08-05-2010, 11:35 AM

EInstein? You mean Einstein, the TURF horse?

Dahoss · #7 08-05-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

I did a quick scan of the 3 most prestigious races in So Cal, The Hollywood Gold Cup, The Pacific Classic and the Santa Anita Handicap, winners only. Only 2 eastern based horses have won any running of these races since 1995 Cigar and Skip Away before the sythetics age. If winners are any indication, the evidence does not show horses ship out west any more than they do now. Einstein shipped and won on rubber, so I see no difference or atleast as it pertains to winners.

Interesting that Zenyatta has spent nearly her entire career in Southern California and hasn't made a start in any of the "3 most prestigious races in So Cal..."

CSC · #8 08-05-2010, 11:43 AM

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Interesting that Zenyatta has spent nearly her entire career in Southern California and hasn't made a start in any of the "3 most prestigious races in So Cal..."

You do know she is a filly/mare.

slotdirt · #9 08-05-2010, 11:45 AM

Excuses are like a-holes.

Dahoss · #10 08-05-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

You do know she is a filly/mare.

You do know that fillies/mares run against males often.

Indian Charlie · #11 08-05-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Its change

Bet you take a poll and people from 0-30 are retarded, people from 31-40 will be just dumb, and people 41+ will have a clue.

FTFY.

Antitrust32 · #12 08-05-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Its change

Our generation is fine with it, the old cranky people set in their ways just bitch and complain instead of educating themselves on it. It isn't like they can't just avoid it.

Bet you take a poll and people from 0-30 are fine with synthetics, people from 31-40 will be unfavored, and people 41+ the majority will hate it.

I cant stand synthetics.

how old are you again?

ateamstupid · #13 08-05-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Its change

Our generation is fine with it, the old cranky people set in their ways just bitch and complain instead of educating themselves on it. It isn't like they can't just avoid it.

Bet you take a poll and people from 0-30 are fine with synthetics, people from 31-40 will be unfavored, and people 41+ the majority will hate it.

This is completely unfounded and made up. I'm 23 and I'm not fine with them. In fact, I don't know anybody IRL, of any age, that likes them. There may be arguments for synthetics, but "if you hate them you're probably a geezer" sure as hell isn't one of them.

Scav · #14 08-05-2010, 01:59 PM

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This is completely unfounded and made up. I'm 23 and I'm not fine with them. In fact, I don't know anybody IRL, of any age, that likes them. There may be arguments for synthetics, but "if you hate them you're probably a geezer" sure as hell isn't one of them.

Obviously there are strays within data, but if you take some surveys and attached it to age, my belief is you would see that the younger generation has no problem with synthetics, and probably prefers it.

letswastemoney · #15 08-05-2010, 02:03 PM

I'm 27 and I don't like synthetics

It F's up history and makes people think synthetic winners belong on the list of best dirt horses ever.

Scav · #16 08-05-2010, 02:05 PM

The more I think about half the younger generation that actually follows horse racing is probably here so maybe I am wrong.

Call me crazy, most if not all my action is on synthetics. Barely play dirt.

ateamstupid · #17 08-05-2010, 02:12 PM

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The more I think about half the younger generation that actually follows horse racing is probably here so maybe I am wrong.

Call me crazy, most if not all my action is on synthetics. Barely play dirt.

You're ****ing crazy.

Antitrust32 · #18 08-05-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

The more I think about half the younger generation that actually follows horse racing is probably here so maybe I am wrong.

Call me crazy, most if not all my action is on synthetics. Barely play dirt.

maybe that is because Arlington is your home track?

Barely play dirt?!?!?! Honey you play everything you can get action on!!

MaTH716 · #19 08-05-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Obviously there are strays within data, but if you take some surveys and attached it to age, my belief is you would see that the younger generation has no problem with synthetics, and probably prefers it.

Take all the data you want, but I believe that majority of people any age don't care either way. They are pure gamblers that couldn't care less if the horses were running on dirt, poly or broken glass.