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![]() The Ruffian comes up seven ticks faster than the Curlin, and the Beyer spread between the two races is only 6 points. Doesn't seem right.
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![]() 7/31 (SAR 2): MSW Admiral Alex 87
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![]() Awesome Son is a cool little horse.
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![]() Quote:
--Dunbar
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Curlin and Hard Spun finish 1,2 in the 2007 BC Classic, demonstrating how competing in all three Triple Crown races ruins a horse for the rest of the year...see avatar photo from REUTERS/Lucas Jackson |
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Ruffian 105 Curlin 93 |
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![]() The only thing swamped between those two races was the new (very cool) Paddock Bar.
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![]() What did the Clement maiden sprinter get the other day?
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![]() Anyone have this
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![]() The difference should have been 14. The pace for the Curlin was very slow, causing Beyer to "project" a number.
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![]() I'm not looking to resurrect an old discussion, but back in April, as Eskendereya was being hailed as the second coming, when people questioned the fig for the Wood, the explanation was that the splits of 24.1, 49.1, and 1:13.2 were "average." Now we're asked to believe that the fractions of the Curlin (23.3, 48.2, 1:13.2) were "very slow." The track at Saratoga on Sunday may have been a bit faster than the Aqueduct main track on Wood Memorial Day, but not enough to explain how the pace of the race (Wood) with the raw slower splits could be considered "average" while the pace of the race with the raw, faster splits (Curlin) is now deemed "very slow."
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![]() I compiled my own pace pars for about 30 different race tracks by going back and using several thousands of races over several years.
Based on my pars - the raw pace and final numbers for the two races at Saratoga come back like this. Winslow Homer race: 74 pace figure and 96 Final Figure Malibu Prayer race: 117 pace figure and 110 final figure The pace call is 6 furlongs into the race at 9fs How anyone can possibly think the pace wasn't slow in the Winslow Homer race is beyond me. As for what this has to do with Eskanderya's race going 9fs on AQU's main - I have absolutely no idea. |
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![]() Thank you.
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![]() Nobody here said that a 1:13.2 split for a stakes horse going 9F wasn't slow.
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I'm not sure how the Wood form could be flattered since the winner is retired and he won by a football field. Jackson Bend ran 3rd in the Preakness. |
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![]() We've already had that discussion above.
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![]() I see now, Douglas handled it quite well in my stead. |