8/1 (MTH): Haskell (G1), Oceanport & Matchmaker (G3's)

10 pnt move up · #1 08-01-2010, 04:54 PM

He is a slow synthetic horse who always beats a bunch of bad california horses

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most of this board 5 months or so ago

He shat all over that field

RockHardTen1985 · #2 08-01-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

He is a slow synthetic horse who always beats a bunch of bad california horses

signed,

most of this board 5 months or so ago

He shat all over that field

The beyer will be good enough, Im guessing 110-115 range.

ateamstupid · #3 08-01-2010, 05:04 PM

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The beyer will be good enough, Im guessing 110-115 range.

I highly doubt that.

RockHardTen1985 · #4 08-01-2010, 05:05 PM

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I highly doubt that.

I dont think its crazy to say Trappe Shot ran the same race, do you?

ateamstupid · #5 08-01-2010, 05:11 PM

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I dont think its crazy to say Trappe Shot ran the same race, do you?

That's subjective. What isn't subjective is the time, which was pedestrian. It wasn't a wicked fast track to begin with, and perhaps it got slower throughout the day, but a 110-115 Beyer still seems unlikely compared to the other dirt races IMO.

The Indomitable DrugS · #6 08-01-2010, 05:32 PM

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I dont think its crazy to say Trappe Shot ran the same race, do you?

Trappe Shot had terrible position after a slow start - and took the worst of some race riding going into the first turn.

When he was caught behind Lookin At Lucky early - it was over for him.

I hope they cut Trappe Shot back to 7 furlongs for the King's Bishop where he would be very tough to beat... but they'll probably follow the money into the Travers.

Omniscient (winner of Race #3) will get the exact same Beyer figure that Lookin At Lucky will unless the choose to split it. No way in hell it's a 115

Scav · #7 08-01-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Trappe Shot had terrible position after a slow start - and took the worst of some race riding going into the first turn.

When he was caught behind Lookin At Lucky early - it was over for him.

I hope they cut Trappe Shot back to 7 furlongs for the King's Bishop where he would be very tough to beat... but they'll probably follow the money into the Travers.

Omniscient (winner of Race #3) will get the exact same Beyer figure that Lookin At Lucky will unless the choose to split it. No way in hell it's a 115

More importantly are you still against Lucky in the Travers per your FB tout? And why?

Some things I took from the Haskell today

1) Baffert has a clue in obviously instructing Garcia to get his ass off the rail. My friend told me today that the rail hasn't been the place to be

2) Bravo sacrificed his horse to try and make Lucky move early knowing he was getting a great trip, I think it cost his horse 2nd or 3rd

3) Does Baffert have horses at Saratoga this summer? If he does, I would really like him to ship Lucky to Toga instead of going all the way back to California

The Indomitable DrugS · #8 08-01-2010, 05:40 PM

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More importantly are you still against him in the Travers per your FB tout? And why?

Yes. Everything went just as I hoped it would in the Haskell...however, what I saw in the other two 3yo races was less than inspiring.

ateamstupid · #9 08-01-2010, 06:05 PM

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3) Does Baffert have horses at Saratoga this summer? If he does, I would really like him to ship Lucky to Toga instead of going all the way back to California

Baffert doesn't have stalls at Saratoga, but he often stables horses with John Terranova in New York.

the_fat_man · #10 08-01-2010, 06:09 PM

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1) Baffert has a clue in obviously instructing Garcia to get his ass off the rail. My friend told me today that the rail hasn't been the place to be

They asked Peagram after the race what he thought whe they drew the rail yet again. He responded: "Good thing we have Martin Garcia". Didn't think about it at the time but clearly this is a dig against Gomez. Well done, Mike.

Betsy · #11 08-01-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Trappe Shot had terrible position after a slow start - and took the worst of some race riding going into the first turn.

When he was caught behind Lookin At Lucky early - it was over for him.

I hope they cut Trappe Shot back to 7 furlongs for the King's Bishop where he would be very tough to beat... but they'll probably follow the money into the Travers.

Omniscient (winner of Race #3) will get the exact same Beyer figure that Lookin At Lucky will unless the choose to split it. No way in hell it's a 115

Do you think Trappe Shot doesn't want to go 1 1/4 or just that this was a hard race and you think he'd be better of skipping the Travers? He's a very talented colt- I was impressed, even though he was clearly 2nd best.

The Indomitable DrugS · #12 08-01-2010, 05:41 PM

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Do you think Trappe Shot doesn't want to go 1 1/4 or just that this was a hard race and you think he'd be better of skipping the Travers? He's a very talented colt- I was impressed, even though he was clearly 2nd best.

I think he could get 10fs ... but I also think he's a lot better at 7fs at this stage of his development. MOTO take I would think.

fpsoxfan · #13 08-01-2010, 05:53 PM

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I dont think its crazy to say Trappe Shot ran the same race, do you?

Same race as who?

philcski · #14 08-01-2010, 08:10 PM

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The beyer will be good enough, Im guessing 110-115 range.

Not even close. Without going too deep into the card... I get about a 101-102.

Rupert Pupkin · #15 08-01-2010, 08:17 PM

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Not even close. Without going too deep into the card... I get about a 101-102.

I'll bet it's higher. I think they'll give him something in the 105-109 range.

Sightseek · #16 08-01-2010, 08:22 PM

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I'll bet it's higher. I think they'll give him something in the 105-109 range.

105 so far.

The Indomitable DrugS · #17 08-01-2010, 08:24 PM

Both the Haskell and Jim Dandy Beyer almost certainly will be 105.

Omniscient gets whatever Lookin At Lucky gets. A Little Warm and Miner's Reserve ran back to the Delaware race.

Sightseek · #18 08-01-2010, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Both the Haskell and Jim Dandy Beyer almost certainly will be 105.

Omniscient gets whatever Lookin At Lucky gets. A Little Warm and Miner's Reserve ran back to the Delaware race.

A Little Warm got a 103.

cmorioles · #19 08-01-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Both the Haskell and Jim Dandy Beyer almost certainly will be 105.

Omniscient gets whatever Lookin At Lucky gets. A Little Warm and Miner's Reserve ran back to the Delaware race.

105 for LAL and 103 for the the Dandy.

brianwspencer · #20 08-01-2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

He is a slow synthetic horse who always beats a bunch of bad california horses

signed,

most of this board 5 months or so ago

Was this really an epidemic 5 months ago here?

Not so sure, but don't let that stop you.