8/1 (MTH): Haskell (G1), Oceanport & Matchmaker (G3's)

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I dont think its crazy to say Trappe Shot ran the same race, do you?

Trappe Shot had terrible position after a slow start - and took the worst of some race riding going into the first turn.

When he was caught behind Lookin At Lucky early - it was over for him.

I hope they cut Trappe Shot back to 7 furlongs for the King's Bishop where he would be very tough to beat... but they'll probably follow the money into the Travers.

Omniscient (winner of Race #3) will get the exact same Beyer figure that Lookin At Lucky will unless the choose to split it. No way in hell it's a 115

[Scav]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Trappe Shot had terrible position after a slow start - and took the worst of some race riding going into the first turn.

When he was caught behind Lookin At Lucky early - it was over for him.

I hope they cut Trappe Shot back to 7 furlongs for the King's Bishop where he would be very tough to beat... but they'll probably follow the money into the Travers.

Omniscient (winner of Race #3) will get the exact same Beyer figure that Lookin At Lucky will unless the choose to split it. No way in hell it's a 115

More importantly are you still against Lucky in the Travers per your FB tout? And why?

Some things I took from the Haskell today

1) Baffert has a clue in obviously instructing Garcia to get his ass off the rail. My friend told me today that the rail hasn't been the place to be

2) Bravo sacrificed his horse to try and make Lucky move early knowing he was getting a great trip, I think it cost his horse 2nd or 3rd

3) Does Baffert have horses at Saratoga this summer? If he does, I would really like him to ship Lucky to Toga instead of going all the way back to California

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Scav

More importantly are you still against him in the Travers per your FB tout? And why?

Yes. Everything went just as I hoped it would in the Haskell...however, what I saw in the other two 3yo races was less than inspiring.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

3) Does Baffert have horses at Saratoga this summer? If he does, I would really like him to ship Lucky to Toga instead of going all the way back to California

Baffert doesn't have stalls at Saratoga, but he often stables horses with John Terranova in New York.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Scav

1) Baffert has a clue in obviously instructing Garcia to get his ass off the rail. My friend told me today that the rail hasn't been the place to be

They asked Peagram after the race what he thought whe they drew the rail yet again. He responded: "Good thing we have Martin Garcia". Didn't think about it at the time but clearly this is a dig against Gomez. Well done, Mike.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

They asked Peagram after the race what he thought whe they drew the rail yet again. He responded: "Good thing we have Martin Garcia". Didn't think about it at the time but clearly this is a dig against Gomez. Well done, Mike.

Yeah, but he's still not as good as Rosario according to IDS, even though this is 2010, I suppose this is his breakout year if he can prove this isn't a one year abberation.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by CSC

Yeah, but he's still not as good as Rosario according to IDS, even though this is 2010, I suppose this is his breakout year if he can prove this isn't a one year abberation.

IDS?

He couldn't lick Rosario's boots. Rosario's ride on Skipshot is the ride of the year.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

IDS?

He couldn't lick Rosario's boots. Rosario's ride on Skipshot is the ride of the year.

Short for I DrugS. You have to admit Garcia has improved this year, I don't know what Vic did with him, but he is not nearly the disaster he once was.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by CSC

Yeah, but he's still not as good as Rosario according to IDS, even though this is 2010, I suppose this is his breakout year if he can prove this isn't a one year abberation.

This is his breakout year?

Martin Garcia is currently 4-for-56 at Del Mar - winning at 7% with an ROI of $0.72

He was 8-for-123 - winning at 6% with an ROI of $1.03 at Del Mar last year.

Some breakout year.

The only thing that has changed is that the guy is entrenched in Baffert's barn and has picked up some caddy's from Mitchell and Sadler.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

This is his breakout year?

Martin Garcia is currently 4-for-56 at Del Mar - winning at 7% with an ROI of $0.72

He was 8-for-123 - winning at 6% with an ROI of $1.03 at Del Mar last year.

Some breakout year.

The only thing that has changed is that the guy is entrenched in Baffert's barn and has picked up some caddy's from Mitchell and Sadler.

No one is saying he is the second coming of anything, but I think it's not accurate to use such a select sample as a 2 week old Delmar meet, you should know this. Whether you agree or not, His wins in the following races is a break out year for someone that was a no name in SO Cal just a year ago.

Haskell (2010)
Lone Star Derby (2010)
Palos Verdes Handicap (2010)
Strub Stakes (2010)
Southwest Stakes (2010)
Acorn Stakes (2010)
Hollywood Oaks (2010)
Preakness Stakes (2010)

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

This is his breakout year?

Martin Garcia is currently 4-for-56 at Del Mar - winning at 7% with an ROI of $0.72

He was 8-for-123 - winning at 6% with an ROI of $1.03 at Del Mar last year.

Some breakout year.

The only thing that has changed is that the guy is entrenched in Baffert's barn and has picked up some caddy's from Mitchell and Sadler.

So he's off to a cold start at Del Mar. What is more important, the fact that he's off to a slow start at Del Mar or the fact that he's won 105 races this year and is the 5th leading rider in the country in terms of money won?

Baffert can get anyone he wants to ride for him. He uses Garcia because Garcia has become one of the best riders in the country.

[cakes44]

The guy keeps good horses out of trouble...period. If he would have lost either the Preakness or Haskell with his rides in those races, I can't imagine the sh!t he would get with those wide rides.

What is his record and ROI on the turf again, Drugs?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

So he's off to a cold start at Del Mar. What is more important, the fact that he's off to a slow start at Del Mar or the fact that he's won 105 races this year and is the 5th leading rider in the country in terms of money won?

He's ridden 646 mounts this year - winning 16% (in the land of the small fields) and his ROI is $1.60 ... which means his mounts have yielded a 20% loss on every dollar bet - and he's losing more than the win takeout.

Baffert can get anyone he wants to ride for him. He uses Garcia because Garcia has become one of the best riders in the country.

Garcia is winning more races because Baffert is using him.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Trappe Shot had terrible position after a slow start - and took the worst of some race riding going into the first turn.

When he was caught behind Lookin At Lucky early - it was over for him.

I hope they cut Trappe Shot back to 7 furlongs for the King's Bishop where he would be very tough to beat... but they'll probably follow the money into the Travers.

Omniscient (winner of Race #3) will get the exact same Beyer figure that Lookin At Lucky will unless the choose to split it. No way in hell it's a 115

Do you think Trappe Shot doesn't want to go 1 1/4 or just that this was a hard race and you think he'd be better of skipping the Travers? He's a very talented colt- I was impressed, even though he was clearly 2nd best.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Do you think Trappe Shot doesn't want to go 1 1/4 or just that this was a hard race and you think he'd be better of skipping the Travers? He's a very talented colt- I was impressed, even though he was clearly 2nd best.

I think he could get 10fs ... but I also think he's a lot better at 7fs at this stage of his development. MOTO take I would think.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I think he could get 10fs ... but I also think he's a lot better at 7fs at this stage of his development. MOTO take I would think.

Thanks! I'll be waiting to hear from McLaughlin........I do think they'll go Travers.