Saratoga Pick 4's

[Dahoss]

I don't like Grosse Pointe Anne at all. Especially at that price. I'd rather take a shot with a horse like Amazing Lauren. In her only start on a fast track she ran okay. Was putting in an early run when she checked a little. Then last time was off a step slow. Then ran 3 wide chasing the pace which is always a prime spot on the inner . Barbara is good on the drop. If she breaks, I think she's on the lead for as far as she can go.

[tiggerv]

Tracking your ROI on small, poorly constructed, caveman P4 tickets is an utter waste of time RHT. It generally requires a chalky sequence or a lot of luck as Coach pointed out. Your ROI is either going to be terrible or very lucky at the end of the meet.

The biggest improvement I've made in the last few years was improving my ticket structure for P4 and P6 sequences. I use the Crist method and put more money behind my stronger opinions. My ROI has dramatically improved even though my handicapping hasn't changed much. A wider net helps catch the big scores and pressing the stronger opinions ensures you make money even in a chalky sequence. 60 bucks isn't close to enough money to structure tickets this way.

If you are really interested in an ROI contest then why have a limit on investment? If you want to spend 60 bucks and I want to spend 300 bucks, then we can still compare ROIs at the end.

Instead of a contest, it would be more valuable to have a thread every day to actually discuss the races in the P4s like Bigs and RBE used to do for Tampa.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by tiggerv

Tracking your ROI on small, poorly constructed, caveman P4 tickets is an utter waste of time RHT. It generally requires a chalky sequence or a lot of luck as Coach pointed out. Your ROI is either going to be terrible or very lucky at the end of the meet.

The biggest improvement I've made in the last few years was improving my ticket structure for P4 and P6 sequences. I use the Crist method and put more money behind my stronger opinions. My ROI has dramatically improved even though my handicapping hasn't changed much. A wider net helps catch the big scores and pressing the stronger opinions ensures you make money even in a chalky sequence. 60 bucks isn't close to enough money to structure tickets this way.

If you are really interested in an ROI contest then why have a limit on investment? If you want to spend 60 bucks and I want to spend 300 bucks, then we can still compare ROIs at the end.

Instead of a contest, it would be more valuable to have a thread every day to actually discuss the races in the P4s like Bigs and RBE used to do for Tampa.

Im playing the tickets. I took some advice and bumped up the limit, and its all good w/ the team. Its not really a contest, it was a thread to keep a tally of how I do, anyone who wants to just post tickets, if they play them or not is welcome, its one thread instead of a daily thing. At the end of the meet they can tally up how they do.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I don't like Grosse Pointe Anne at all. Especially at that price. I'd rather take a shot with a horse like Amazing Lauren. In her only start on a fast track she ran okay. Was putting in an early run when she checked a little. Then last time was off a step slow. Then ran 3 wide chasing the pace which is always a prime spot on the inner . Barbara is good on the drop. If she breaks, I think she's on the lead for as far as she can go.

To the casual fan Babara is good on the drop, just like in will say in the form.
Taking a closer look tells me most of those big stats are at Belmont and Aqueduct, its a different game at Toga.

Past 5 years at Toga MSW-MCL 0-4... Of course its not a big sample but one of these was a 5-1 dud this year already.

Maiden Claiming Races past 5 years at Toga he is 1/14 with a .90 cent ROI. Two of those 14 bombed at around 3-1. His only winner is a turf runner.

If you go just Maiden Claim on dirt you will get 0/13.

Lezcano is also an ice cold 0/15 at the meet.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

To the casual fan Babara is good on the drop, just like in will say in the form.
Taking a closer look tells me most of those big stats are at Belmont and Aqueduct, its a different game at Toga.

Past 5 years at Toga MSW-MCL 0-4... Of course its not a big sample but one of these was a 5-1 dud this year already.

Maiden Claiming Races past 5 years at Toga he is 1/14 with a .90 cent ROI. Two of those 14 bombed at around 3-1. His only winner is a turf runner.

If you go just Maiden Claim on dirt you will get 0/13.

Lezcano is also an ice cold 0/15 at the meet.

I think we all get it. You finally found formulator and how to use it. Welcome to 2010.

To the casual fan.....that's pretty funny. Good luck with your team's fantasy plays.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I think we all get it. You finally found formulator and how to use it. Welcome to 2010.

To the casual fan.....that's pretty funny. Good luck with your team's fantasy plays.

No need for this. If Im wrong, I lose $50, lol PLUS A FEW MORE BUCKS.