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Old 07-24-2010, 08:19 PM
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:25 PM
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Wait - so Queen Martha got a 105 Beyer in her first lifetime dirt attempt?

Even the Euro rejects are getting it done on dirt now I suppose. Maybe she can line up a match race with St. Trinians
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:38 PM
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:41 PM
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I'm not buying it either ... look at what that figure (RA's supposed 110) would do to the 8th race.

I think it's a pretty cut and dry 102 that RA ran today imo.
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Old 07-24-2010, 09:11 PM
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I'm not buying it either ... look at what that figure (RA's supposed 110) would do to the 8th race.

I think it's a pretty cut and dry 102 that RA ran today imo.
79. . . New tops for at least 1-2-3 in that race and a new top for Ask The Moon.
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Old 07-24-2010, 09:43 PM
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79. . . New tops for at least 1-2-3 in that race and a new top for Ask The Moon.
Yep. Using a 110 for RA's race and a 79 for the 8th race .. here's what the 8th race looks like

13 point new career top for winner Cause I Can

5 point new career top for 2nd place finisher

6 point new top for 3rd place

9 point new top for 4th place

2nd fastest figure in 25 career starts for 5th place

If that race gets a 71 instead of a 79 ... everything falls pretty neatly in line and the numbers look very logical.

Besides the 8th race and RA's race .. you had only one other dirt route - which was race 10.

In that race ...

* The winner got a 16 point career top (1st start of the claim for Rick Dutrow so a big jump up isn't that shocking)

* 2nd place 1 point off of career top, but 6 points better than last time out

* 3rd place 8 points off of career top, but 4 points better than last time out


Shave 8 points from the routes and that means the 1st Dutrow's career top would be just 8 points.. and that the 2nd and 3rd place finishers who were both dusted by a 19/1 shot .. ran just slightly worse than last out.

To me, the figure has to be in the 102-to-104 range. I went with a 102 but there's no way it's any faster than a 105.
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Old 07-24-2010, 11:35 PM
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Yep. Using a 110 for RA's race and a 79 for the 8th race .. here's what the 8th race looks like

13 point new career top for winner Cause I Can

5 point new career top for 2nd place finisher

6 point new top for 3rd place

9 point new top for 4th place

2nd fastest figure in 25 career starts for 5th place

If that race gets a 71 instead of a 79 ... everything falls pretty neatly in line and the numbers look very logical.

Besides the 8th race and RA's race .. you had only one other dirt route - which was race 10.

In that race ...

* The winner got a 16 point career top (1st start of the claim for Rick Dutrow so a big jump up isn't that shocking)

* 2nd place 1 point off of career top, but 6 points better than last time out

* 3rd place 8 points off of career top, but 4 points better than last time out


Shave 8 points from the routes and that means the 1st Dutrow's career top would be just 8 points.. and that the 2nd and 3rd place finishers who were both dusted by a 19/1 shot .. ran just slightly worse than last out.

To me, the figure has to be in the 102-to-104 range. I went with a 102 but there's no way it's any faster than a 105.
Agree with your logic. Didn't do the card, how do the sprints line up? 102-103 sounds right eyeballing it, 110 seems much too high.
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Old 07-25-2010, 11:59 AM
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I thought you were being sarcastic. They just verified it on TVG.
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I thought you were being sarcastic. They just verified it on TVG.
lol

i thought it was an attempt at humor at first as well. i find that figure very hard to believe.
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Old 07-25-2010, 02:57 PM
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lol

i thought it was an attempt at humor at first as well. i find that figure very hard to believe.
As per DRF, someone else else found it hard to believe as well ...

Figure has been adjusted to 105 ..
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Old 07-25-2010, 03:46 PM
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110 or 105 or... well just get 'em where you want over there at the ol' drf.
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Old 07-25-2010, 07:11 PM
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I really hope she runs in the Personal Ensign.
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Old 07-25-2010, 07:29 PM
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Perhaps people could divide into the Blind Luck "camp," and the Devil May Care "camp" and argue about those two for awhile. It probably isn't worth arguing about, but at least that would be something different.

I'm utterly bored with the big two and their completely unexciting 2010 campaigns.
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Old 07-25-2010, 07:36 PM
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I really hope she runs in the Personal Ensign.
If they commit to it, then there's no reason for Zenyatta not to come. Hell, it's 10 furlongs, which all the Zentards have repeatedly said RA couldn't last against Big Z.
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I really hope she runs in the Personal Ensign.
Maybe Jackson will insist it be shortened to 9 furlongs to accomodate Rach, you know par for the course, then we might have a shot of it happening.
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