Jon White on the Best Horses of the last 50 years...

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

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This is my list of the 10 best Thoroughbreds ever to have raced in this country:

1. Man o’ War
2. Secretariat
3. Citation
4. Kelso
5. Spectacular Bid
6. Dr. Fager
7. Native Dancer
8. Seattle Slew
9. Count Fleet
10. Forego

What, no Colin? Sysonby? Domino? Salvator? Lexington? American Eclipse? Sir Archy? When you say "ever to have raced in this country", you are covering a lot of time and a lot of types of racing. I think this list covers only the "modern era", post-WWI, but even then, it is heavily weighted to the post-WWII era.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

What, no Colin? Sysonby? Domino? Salvator? Lexington? American Eclipse? Sir Archy?

I believe he had Salvator #2 on his 'men I want to cuddle with' list.

[Thunder Gulch]

So they both choose to ignore "grass" horses that have impacted the sport for generations, but they make no such limitations on synthetic specialists? And while they exclude grass horses, where exactly does John Henry rank with just the dirt efforts?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

What, no Colin? Sysonby? Domino? Salvator? Lexington? American Eclipse? Sir Archy? When you say "ever to have raced in this country", you are covering a lot of time and a lot of types of racing. I think this list covers only the "modern era", post-WWI, but even then, it is heavily weighted to the post-WWII era.

The article did say "in the last 50 years", for what it's worth.

It's still a laughable ranking for a horse that has largely faced nothing. Part of that isn't her fault- there isn't quality competition for her to face right now in ANY division. But in my humble opinion, you gain the level of "greatness" required to be on this type of list by facing, and beating, horses that are either on this list as well or would be under some consideration. If none of those are available, then dominance can be looked at as a proxy- and despite winning 17 in a row, only a few times has she been dominant on a Ruffian type level.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by philcski

If none of those are available, then dominance can be looked at as a proxy- and despite winning 17 in a row, only a few times has she been dominant on a Ruffian type level.

Workouts and dance move dominance do not count.