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[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by gales0678

then why did the stimulus make the unemployment rate go up when he said if it was passed would keep unemployment from going abve 8%

That doesn't make a lot of sense here Gales. The stimulus made unemployment go up???

Interesting.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

That doesn't make a lot of sense here Gales. The stimulus made unemployment go up???

Interesting.

and this guy didn't even need Sighty's Magic 8-Ball

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,487425,00.html

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by geeker2

and this guy didn't even need Sighty's Magic 8-Ball

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,487425,00.html

And you can find a million economists who will say the stimulus lowers unemployment.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

And you can find a million economists who will say the stimulus lowers unemployment.

Yeah, but you said it "doesn't make a lot of sense " and what this guy pointed out was a logical possible senerio.

and I don't see unemployment lower.....

[Danzig]

i didn't necessarily agree with the stimulus, but i would be hard pressed to say it 'made' unemployment go up. unemployment did go up-would it have done so regardless, probably. would it have gone up higher without the stimulus-maybe. but to say it made the jobless rate go up-come on.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

That doesn't make a lot of sense here Gales. The stimulus made unemployment go up???

Interesting.

well it did , they said if it got passed unemployment wouldn't go above 8% , after it went through we went straight up to 10% , guess it worked , just the opposite of what they thought

[dalakhani]

[quote=gales0678;671145]well it did , they said if it got passed unemployment wouldn't go above 8% , after it went through we went straight up to 10% , guess it worked , just the opposite of what they thought[/QUOT

surely you took logic classes in college. This would be a logical fallacy unless of course you can show how the stimulus caused unemployment to go up.

[gales0678]

[quote=dalakhani;671272]

Originally Posted by gales0678

well it did , they said if it got passed unemployment wouldn't go above 8% , after it went through we went straight up to 10% , guess it worked , just the opposite of what they thought[/QUOT

surely you took logic classes in college. This would be a logical fallacy unless of course you can show how the stimulus caused unemployment to go up.

it's really black and white , bush left office in jan , we were told in early feb that the stimulus had to get passed immediatly in order for unemployment to not go above 8% , it went to 10%+ after it was passed

no one will ever no what would have happened to unemployment if it didn't get passed

but in the real world not in your fantasy little world inside the beltway dala
it didn't work


if palin guaranteed something like this and it didn't happen the media would be killing her every day , obama and his team get a pass, but , they obviously have made things worse since Bush headed back to Texas

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by gales0678

no one will ever no what would have happened to unemployment if it didn't get passed

but in the real world not in your fantasy little world inside the beltway dala
it didn't work

Do you honestly not see that these two sentences directly contradict each other? You basically say that no one will ever know how well - or even if - it worked. Then you say, "it didn't work."

If you simply mean that it did not successfully keep unemployment below 10%, then you are obviously correct. Nobody would dispute that. That's like arguing the sky is blue.

But if you mean that it didn't succeed in keeping unemployment lower, well....as you said....you can't know that.

So....your argument here is either wrong by your own admission or so obvious that there is no point in even making it.

[Antitrust32]

how about the arguement that it was a waste of $1,000,000,000,000 of taxpayers dollars?

Is that similar to the sky is blue comment?


my lord a trillion dollars has a ton of zero's

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

how about the arguement that it was a waste of $1,000,000,000,000 of taxpayers dollars?

Is that similar to the sky is blue comment?


my lord a trillion dollars has a ton of zero's

Speaking of ways to waste a trillion dollars, in the end if it was a waste or not, I'd rather "waste" a trillion bucks trying to do something to help our economy that waste it invading other countries and killing people.

That's just me though, I know how much some people love war, maybe not you personally, but I don't want to step on any toes.

[dellinger63]

At least the census people are working.



I sent back the form, have been visited twice (by two different people, the 1rst a local) and was just called on the phone to verify a census worker had visited.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

how about the arguement that it was a waste of $1,000,000,000,000 of taxpayers dollars?

Is that similar to the sky is blue comment?

Of course not. Whether or not it was a wise decision is a position two reasonable people could disagree about, and I think there are valid points to be made on each side.

Whether or not it kept unemployment below 10% is not like that. It didn't, and nobody is saying that it did. Those that predicted it would accomplish that statistical feat were incorrect. That's obvious too. It also didn't cure cancer, or improve top Republicans' education levels, or other difficult things to accomplish. That doesn't really prove that it "worked," or "didn't work."