The Boss has passed.

dalakhani · #1 07-18-2010, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Actually there is a lot of truth to it.

The yankees plan is unlike anyone elses in team sports. They dont have to develop players to the degree as everyone else and dont have to spend nearly as much time on player development since the rest of the league does it for them. They get the finished product at a premium price but because of the money they have it doesnt matter. It also doesnt matter much when they make a mistake because they can just eat the contract and move on.

While Boston and the mets have more revenues than most everyone else they are still dwarfed by the Yankees. The Red Sox have been competitive because they have not only spent on FA's (though not to the degree of the yankees) but have a superior player development program. Of course having the extra cash to pay draftees over slot and the ability to re-sign its developed players matters too. The Mets havent suceeded because they have done a pretty weak job in developing players.

Okay. Lets look at the Roster that won that first world series in a century for the Red Sox:

c- VARITEK ACQUIRED IN TRADE
1B- MILLAR FREE AGENT
2B- BELLHORN CONDITIONAL TRADE
SS- REESE FREE AGENT
3B- MUELLER FREE AGENT
OF- MANNY RAMIREZ FREE AGENT
OF- JOHNNY DAMON FREE AGENT
OF- KAPLER FREE AGENT
DH- ORTIZ FREE AGENT

That's right, not a single home grown player in the entire every day lineup. The only one that comes close is Trot Nixon and he sucked and he missed most of the season.

How about the Pitching Staff? Lets take a look:

P- Martinez Trade (basically free agent)
P- Schilling Trade (basically free agent)
P- Arroyo Free Agent
P- Lowe Trade (legit trade)
p- Wakefield Free Agent

And the Yanks buy championships? That team didn't have one homegrown regular. Go ahead Chuck...spin it.

Cannon Shell · #2 07-18-2010, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Okay. Lets look at the Roster that won that first world series in a century for the Red Sox:

c- VARITEK ACQUIRED IN TRADE
1B- MILLAR FREE AGENT
2B- BELLHORN CONDITIONAL TRADE
SS- REESE FREE AGENT
3B- MUELLER FREE AGENT
OF- MANNY RAMIREZ FREE AGENT
OF- JOHNNY DAMON FREE AGENT
OF- KAPLER FREE AGENT
DH- ORTIZ FREE AGENT

That's right, not a single home grown player in the entire every day lineup. The only one that comes close is Trot Nixon and he sucked and he missed most of the season.

How about the Pitching Staff? Lets take a look:

P- Martinez Trade (basically free agent)
P- Schilling Trade (basically free agent)
P- Arroyo Free Agent
P- Lowe Trade (legit trade)
p- Wakefield Free Agent

And the Yanks buy championships? That team didn't one homegrown regular. Go ahead Chuck...spin it.

Look at the 07 WS team
C- varitek=acquired in a minor league trade- has never played a single game in the majors for any team other than the Red Sox
1b- Youlkilis- drafted by Boston
2b- Pedroia- drafted by Red Sox
3b- Lowell- acquired in trade for homegrown Hanley Ramirez
Dh- Ortiz-signed off the junk pile after being released by MN-made 1.2 mill that year
ss- Lugo- FA sign 8 mill
of-Coco Crisp-acquired via trade for nobodies made-3 mill that year
of-manny -big money Fa
of-JD drew-market value fa
Sp-Beckett-acquired via trade for Hanley Ramirez
Sp-Wakefield-signed as fa after being released by Pirates -salary when signed 175k
sp-Dice K-Intl FA
sp Shilling-Big Money FA
sp-tavarez-cheap FA -3 mill a year
sp-lester-drafted
Cl- paplebon-drafted

dalakhani · #3 07-18-2010, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Look at the 07 WS team
C- varitek=acquired in a minor league trade- has never played a single game in the majors for any team other than the Red Sox
1b- Youlkilis- drafted by Boston
2b- Pedroia- drafted by Red Sox
3b- Lowell- acquired in trade for homegrown Hanley Ramirez
Dh- Ortiz-signed off the junk pile after being released by MN-made 1.2 mill that year
ss- Lugo- FA sign 8 mill
of-Coco Crisp-acquired via trade for nobodies made-3 mill that year
of-manny -big money Fa
of-JD drew-market value fa
Sp-Beckett-acquired via trade for Hanley Ramirez
Sp-Wakefield-signed as fa after being released by Pirates -salary when signed 175k
sp-Dice K-Intl FA
sp Shilling-Big Money FA
sp-tavarez-cheap FA -3 mill a year
sp-lester-drafted
Cl- paplebon-drafted

Would Dice K be considered a "big money free agent"? LOL