Del Mar

[the_fat_man]

Let's temper it a bit then. How about we card only 5F or greater races for 2 year olds. I don't have a problem with 2 year olds running in general. I do have a problem when they run 2F, 4F and 4.5F. These races are a ****in' joke. You have racing secretaries that never bother to mix their distances (5f, 5.5f. 6f, 6.5f, 7f, in the sprints, for example) yet they card these sham races.

If they can't get 5F, they should be racing against poodles.

NYRA, at least, to their credit, get this part right.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Let's temper it a bit then. How about we card only 5F or greater races for 2 year olds. I don't have a problem with 2 year olds running in general. I do have a problem when they run 2F, 4F and 4.5F. These races are a ****in' joke. You have racing secretaries that never bother to mix their distances (5f, 5.5f. 6f, 6.5f, 7f, in the sprints, for example) yet they card these sham races.

If they can't get 5F, they should be racing against poodles.

NYRA, at least, to their credit, get this part right.

You mean the 15 races a year run nationwide at these distances are just too much to handle?

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You mean the 15 races a year run nationwide at these distances are just too much to handle?

Nationwide? You have any idea how many of these there are between HOL, GG, CD, AP, CRC, WO, etc.?

A lot more than 15. But your point is well taken: run them when they can't get a reasonable distance so that the owners get hooked even more. Why keep them in the barn or on the farm and let them develop to the point when they can actually compete as horses?

[Smooth Operator]

Too bad Z didn't start as a baby...................

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Too bad Z didn't start as a baby...................

Hell I'd take January, February, May, or July of this year.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Hell I'd take January, February, May, or July of this year.

Cakes,

It won't get much pub, but that was very clever.

Cheers!

[Smooth Operator]

Cigar too

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Nationwide? You have any idea how many of these there are between HOL, GG, CD, AP, CRC, WO, etc.?

A lot more than 15. But your point is well taken: run them when they can't get a reasonable distance so that the owners get hooked even more. Why keep them in the barn or on the farm and let them develop to the point when they can actually compete as horses?

Yeah there might be 20 or 25 out of how many races run this year? 40000 or 50000?

And yes owners get "hooked" on running horses 4 1/2 furlongs. Turns them into zombies that just start spending more and more.

There are few things in this sport, which is full of bad ideas, that is more idiotic or disproven than the idea that horses shouldnt compete as 2 year olds.

[dalakhani]

Guys, Charlestown runs 15 4.5f races every week.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Guys, Charlestown runs 15 4.5f races every week.

I think his point is based just on 2yr olds.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I think his point is based just on 2yr olds.

Okay, charlestown runs 15-20 4.5 furlong races for two year olds every month.

[Smooth Operator]

How the hell did Forego make it to the gate nearly sixty times??????????????

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Guys, Charlestown runs 15 4.5f races every week.

Doubtful anyone other than the Sartinistas is playing this track.

Is this a 2 turn race at CT?

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[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Doubtful anyone other than the Sartinistas is playing this track.

Is this a 2 turn race at CT?

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Almost. They start them from the chute. Its an interesting niche though.

They have some nice purses and they are just going to get bigger now that table games have arrived.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah there might be 20 or 25 out of how many races run this year? 40000 or 50000?

And yes owners get "hooked" on running horses 4 1/2 furlongs. Turns them into zombies that just start spending more and more.

There are few things in this sport, which is full of bad ideas, that is more idiotic or disproven than the idea that horses shouldnt compete as 2 year olds.

I don't have a problem with them competing as 2 year olds. I just want them to run tbred distances.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I don't have a problem with them competing as 2 year olds. I just want them to run tbred distances.

Why run them longer than they are ready to go? In april they are ready to go 4 1/2. I have no defense of the 2 furlong races.

[10 pnt move up]

How would you card mdn special races when there are only a handful, and thats not really an exaggeration, of owners buying reasonable priced horses and sending them to socal?

They would ALWAYS run a straight mdn three year old race the first day, then a filly race thurs-fri, and then one each over the weekend. These races would raw well the first week.

You would have your top flight owners, Paulson, Lewis, Harbor View, Moss, etc etc, then the rest would be made up of smaller barn owners who had maybe 5-10 horses but a few decent bred.

Now the big owners are all dead, money dont go to socal anymore. The middle guy is extinct out there.

[RockHardTen1985]

Rock So Hard, a Rock Hard Ten colt who has worked with Smash, is expected to debut for Baffert and the Summit Racing syndicate on Saturday in the first scheduled straight maiden race of the meet.