Gio Ponti or Lookin At Lucky in the Hall of Fame?

[randallscott35]

If Point Given can get in, does it really matter if any horse ever gets in? I mean its a joke.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

How is Point Given getting in a joke?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

How is Point Given getting in a joke?

Are you ****ing serious? There was a whole thread about this when you were in the bathroom for 4 months.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

If someone said Point Given was the best 3-year-old from 2010 going all the way back to Holy Bull ... I wouldn't even attempt to argue.

He was not a joke.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

If someone said Point Given was the best 3-year-old from 2010 going all the way back to Holy Bull ... I wouldn't even attempt to argue.

He was not a joke.

He did not do enough to be in the Hall of Fame. Not even close. I'm losing respect for you thinking he belongs.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He's arguably the best 3yo since Holy Bull. He won the Travers with a 117 Beyer wearing a bar shoe in his final lifetime start.. that to complete a four race sweep of the Preakness, Belmont, Haskell, and Travers.

He wasn't exactly a bad 2yo either ... he missed winning the BC Juvie by a nose despite being 14th and last on the turn. He went by good 2yo's like they were standing still. Macho Uno and Street Cry, the 1st and 3rd place finishers of that race .. were very good 2yos.

You think Lookin At Lucky was better?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He's arguably the best 3yo since Holy Bull. He won the Travers with a 117 Beyer wearing a bar shoe in his final lifetime start.. that to complete a four race sweep of the Preakness, Belmont, Haskell, and Travers.

He wasn't exactly a bad 2yo either ... he missed winning the BC Juvie by a nose despite being 14th and last on the turn. He went by good 2yo's like they were standing still. Macho Uno and Street Cry, the 1st and 3rd place finishers of that race .. were very good 2yos.

You think Lookin At Lucky was better?

What does Lookin at Lucky have to do with this? Nothing. Fact is Point Given didn't do enough. It's all about what you think constitutes a Hall of Fame career. If you want to dumb it down like a standardized test, go ahead. When I saw he got in, an obvious nod to a Baffert love affair in this business I decided it didn't matter who was in the Hall from here on out. Meaningless.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

If Point Given can get in, does it really matter if any horse ever gets in? I mean its a joke.

A joke?
I think a person could make a reasonable argument either way on Point Given. If somebody thinks the Hall should have a very strict standard for admittance (as you apparently do) that's fine. Others might not.
Personally, I think when you compare Point Given to the horses of his era he stacks up very nicely. There sure weren't a lot of 3yos in the decade before or after him that had better campaigns.
If you don't think he should be in...fine. But it is hardly as obviously wrong as you want to make it seem. Personally I think he belongs.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by miraja2

A joke?
I think a person could make a reasonable argument either way on Point Given. If somebody thinks the Hall should have a very strict standard for admittance (as you apparently do) that's fine. Others might not.
Personally, I think when you compare Point Given to the horses of his era he stacks up very nicely. There sure weren't a lot of 3yos in the decade before or after him that had better campaigns.
If you don't think he should be in...fine. But it is hardly as obviously wrong as you want to make it seem. Personally I think he belongs.

You answered your own question. Its the Hall Of Fame. It either means something or it doesn't. You believe it doesn't. So be it.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

You answered your own question. Its the Hall Of Fame. It either means something or it doesn't. You believe it doesn't. So be it.

In a sense you're right. I honestly don't care about who gets in and who doesn't. The HOF doesn't really interest me.
If you disagree with Point Given getting in, that's fine. I totally think you can make a very legitimate argument against him.
But I think people can make a legitimate argument for him as well.