Saturday Beyers

[philcski]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

There is no way they should put a 115 in the paper. If that is done, they look like fools in the future.

Blind Luck overcame a moderate pace to win from the back. There is simply no way she ran a 115 with the pace that way, or even close. I can buy a high 90s at best. I'm not saying the 94 is dead accurate, that is not possible. But I would say the chances the 94 are correct are much higher than a 115, because the chances a 115 are correct are none.

As for PA, you know why you were banned. It had ZERO to do with Beyer figures.

No, it had nothing to do with Beyers. It had everything to do with me expressing my opinion.

(And somebody's lackey misquoting me in the process.)

As for your point about them "looking like fools"... I think this is actually the problem. There is a concern they need to justify why or why not a horse repeats or doesn't repeat a performance- when they owe nothing.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by philcski

No, it had nothing to do with Beyers. It had everything to do with me expressing my opinion.

(And somebody's lackey misquoting me in the process.)

As for your point about them "looking like fools"... I think this is actually the problem. There is a concern they need to justify why or why not a horse repeats or doesn't repeat a performance- when they owe nothing.

Don't be so disingenuous. I wasn't going to bring this up, but you know (and Steve too) that you posted the OWNER of the PA board posted drunk at 3am and then deleted his threads when he sobered up. It was complete lunacy on your part, and more importantly it was unprovoked.

Since he is my friend and you post there, of course I'm going to tell him.

So he was banned at PA for posting his opinion here?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

So he was banned at PA for posting his opinion here?

Yeah, that is it. You are a genius.

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clean up on isle 5

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Yeah, that is it. You are a genius.

Yes and you're a millionaire off your pace figs.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yes and you're a millionaire off your pace figs.

Wow, that was quite the leap. Strike a nerve or something?

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Wow, that was quite the leap. Strike a nerve or something?

Don't turn into a battered woman and feign like you weren't being sarcastic.

Be a man.

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

Don't be so disingenuous. I wasn't going to bring this up, but you know (and Steve too) that you posted the OWNER of the PA board posted drunk at 3am and then deleted his threads when he sobered up. It was complete lunacy on your part, and more importantly it was unprovoked.

Since he is my friend and you post there, of course I'm going to tell him.

reading his posts I assumed he posted drunk all the time.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

reading his posts I assumed he posted drunk all the time.

Be careful, you may be the next one banned.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Don't be so disingenuous. I wasn't going to bring this up, but you know (and Steve too) that you posted the OWNER of the PA board posted drunk at 3am and then deleted his threads when he sobered up. It was complete lunacy on your part, and more importantly it was unprovoked.

Since he is my friend and you post there, of course I'm going to tell him.

BULLSHIT.

The FACT is you (deliberately or not) misquoted me. I said "I like the PA board but the owner posts inflammatory comments AT 3am LIKE he is drunk." Which he does- and I brought up the links when he sent me a PM. Whether or not he was actually drunk is beside the point. He says he does not drink and it is work related that he's up at that time. Fine, whatever. If somebody said that about me I wouldn't get my goddamn panties in a bunch like you did, running to tell like a little kid.

The fact that you dislike me, because I proved you very wrong the other day, made you meld several others' comments into mine- because it was the topic of discussion in that thread.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by philcski

BULLSHIT.

The FACT is you (deliberately or not) misquoted me. I said "I like the PA board but the owner posts inflammatory comments AT 3am LIKE he is drunk." Which he does- and I brought up the links when he sent me a PM. Whether or not he was actually drunk is beside the point. He says he does not drink and it is work related that he's up at that time. Fine, whatever. If somebody said that about me I wouldn't get my goddamn panties in a bunch like you did, running to tell like a little kid.

The fact that you dislike me, because I proved you very wrong the other day, made you meld several others' comments into mine- because it was the topic of discussion in that thread.

Wow, maybe eventually you'll get something right. I'm sure Steve can retrieve the post if he wants. I certainly didn't pretend to quote you exactly (and I wasn't the only "little kid" that let Mike know), but I am 100% certain I had the gist of it right.

I honestly have no idea where you proved me wrong. Remind me. It won't be the first or last time I was wrong. I certainly didn't take it personally since I don't even remember it. I liked talking figures with you. You seemed sincere when you thanked me for telling you about the Belmont mile Beyer adjustment and I know you are pretty knowledgeable.

You seem different lately. Things changed in your life for the worse? I don't get it.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Wow, maybe eventually you'll get something right. I'm sure Steve can retrieve the post if he wants. I certainly didn't pretend to quote you exactly (and I wasn't the only "little kid" that let Mike know), but I am 100% certain I had the gist of it right.

I honestly have no idea where you proved me wrong. Remind me. It won't be the first or last time I was wrong. I certainly didn't take it personally since I don't even remember it. I liked talking figures with you. You seemed sincere when you thanked me for telling you about the Belmont mile Beyer adjustment and I know you are pretty knowledgeable.

You seem different lately. Things changed in your life for the worse? I don't get it.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...7&postcount=39
http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=63
http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=66

Then, shortly after that, I get a snarky, and unexplained, comment:
http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...53&postcount=5

Perhaps I was reading too much into it.

I like(d) you too, CJ. Always been a fan of your knowledge and approach to the game. However, I thought it was cowardly when you expressed commentary HERE elsewhere. We don't need Steve to bring up old posts because what I said was certainly not inflammatory, or at least enough to warrant this type of anger on your part and his part- and quite frankly it seems my opinion of not liking him is backed by several other people here.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by philcski

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...7&postcount=39
http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=63
http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...1&postcount=66

Then, shortly after that, I get a snarky, and unexplained, comment:
http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...53&postcount=5

Perhaps I was reading too much into it.

I like(d) you too, CJ. Always been a fan of your knowledge and approach to the game. However, I thought it was cowardly when you expressed commentary HERE elsewhere. We don't need Steve to bring up old posts because what I said was certainly not inflammatory, or at least enough to warrant this type of anger on your part and his part.

I said I didn't have the specific numbers, but I guess technically I was wrong, I can live with that. I still know it is much easier to show a paper profit at smaller tracks with small pools than it is at larger ones. I just don't have time right now to do all the research with about 50 tracks running a week. Come winter I can revisit that.

As for the unexplained comment, I forgot about it. Drugs went fishing with another "hey, look at me thread", without mentioning specifics. He reeled you right in. He was begging to be asked why DeShawn Parker was important.

If it wasn't inflammatory, why was it deleted?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

If it wasn't inflammatory, why was it deleted?

Everybody's comments were deleted. There were about 10 posts removed. I don't question Steve's decisions on these things because he basically allows us to self govern this site.

Originally Posted by cmorioles

As for the unexplained comment, I forgot about it. Drugs went fishing with another hey, look at me thread, without mentioning specifics. He reeled you right in.

That is fine. Usually it's an interesting story, coming from Drugs.

Why was it deleted? Probably some PM's and/or e-mails about it.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Don't be so disingenuous. I wasn't going to bring this up, but you know (and Steve too) that you posted the OWNER of the PA board posted drunk at 3am and then deleted his threads when he sobered up. It was complete lunacy on your part, and more importantly it was unprovoked.

Since he is my friend and you post there, of course I'm going to tell him.

This is total bullshit, I work overnights Thur-Sat and he talks a lot of **** late at night and then its all deleted the next day. I recently pm'd him about why he darts my posts and be blames it all on you... Here are the pms-

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Why do you delete my posts? If Im not wanted here you might as well dart me, but taking down posts that you dont like makes you a dictator and its LAME. I might have been out of line on other sites, but never here.



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Not sure what you're talking about. I don't recall deleting any of your posts...maybe it was another moderator?

I will tell you that if it was a post that consisted of nothing but an emoticon (like or ), then that's one of the other mod's pet peeves....he hates posts like that, and I can't say I disagree...

Other than that, not quite sure what you're talking about...give me specifics...

[randallscott35]

This thread wasn't really complete until RH10 commented.

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

This thread wasn't really complete until RH10 commented.

its the threshold

Originally Posted by randallscott35

This thread wasn't really complete until RH10 commented.

He's posting PM's to boot.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the admin of PA is a despicable chicken hawk.