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LOL @ this dude complaining about me deleting his post, then deleting it himself. You can't make this stuff up.
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The one doing the reading into is you. It was a conversation about alternative wagering concepts with special attention to exchange betting.
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It's remarkable that no one can have any discussion or try to offer any broad insights on a topic without immediate attempts to create polarizing divisions. It's frankly bizarre.
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07-09-2010, 04:28 PM
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Right now, It's pretty easy to "blast" what is passing as horse racing at every race track in the country except Monmouth Park and Evangeline.
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07-09-2010, 04:30 PM
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IMO Steve has tried very hard to protect the NYRA product, while not overly supporting the MP changes. We all (save Fatty) hope that NYRA's product returns to be the best betting opportunity in America but Fri-Sunday it isn't. MP is a better meet and it has attracted very good races to bet.
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Discussion of the Monmouth meet that fails to address its' complete and almost certain transience is 100% incomplete and pointless. While there's a ways to go and its' nice to have big fields, the reality is the handle on the cards isn't meeting the levels it needs to in order to come close to sustaining the concept. God forbid anyone try and introduce that reality to the proceedings... What should be the focus of the discussion is not some vapid NY v. NJ chest-thumping but what about MTH is working, what isn't and what level of racing dates and purse contributions make sense. It took a full week for anyone to understand what the point was of the "$1,000,000 a day" thread, and clearly today's conversation with Beyer seems to be evading comprehension. I'm for ALL racing and am eager, and in fact desperate, to figure out what we need to do as an industry, as players, as owners, as fans, to stabilize and grow the game. I find ways to talk as encouragingly as possible about Magna, CDI, NYRA and every other entity in the game. It isn't as mundane as being defensive of NYRA at the expense of the NJSEA.
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The handle is beyond ANYONE's imagination its a teriffic success, assuming it continues it WILL have a ton of support from NJSEA and the State.. BTW support is = to money. The casino deal will evovle and the State will conjure up a way to find a paultry 15 or so mil to keep the recipe in place. The nay sayers including Crist and friends are looking to equate a handle to purse ratio vs. business/industry development. The State is committed to growing the industry even if includes subsidizing it wth dollars. It's called investing and it is my opinion NJ gets it. As long as the handles continues to elipsce even the most wild spectulations the State will stand behind NJ Racing and GIVE it money to grow.. This isnt NY
As for you supporting MP, of course you do you are an advocate of racing. Your Fav is NYRA and it comes across loud and clear even when some horrible racing is on tap daily at Belmont. Some of this stuff is just awful and frankly those are words that NEVER come out of your mouth there is always sometype of out of place spin. As advocate call it like it is a function of poor stock levels, MP, and crappy purses due to financial difficulties. Some of the current cards arent even Inner track quality never mind July in NY.
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Management at a track like Presque Isle - where table games just started yesterday - would love to run a 25 day meet again instead of a 100 day meet. They would gladly quickly give away the fortune the state requires them to give away in purses.. and be done with racing like that. Total pipe dream that I just pulled out of my ass time .... but I'd love to see all of these miserable racinos work together and run shortened 20 to 25 day super meets for huge money. Have Delaware give all their purses away in 20 racing days, Presque Isle give them all away in 20 racing days, Mountaineer give them all away in 25 racing days, Charles Town give them all away in 25 racing days, Indiana Downs 25 racing days, Hoosier 15 racing days, Prarie Meadows 25 days, Delta Downs 15 days, Sunland 20 days, Zia Park 15 days, Finger Lakes 20 days. Philly Park can be the place that goes heads up with Saratoga and Del Mar and run for six or seven weeks. Let those 12 miserable casino tracks band together and form one year round super meet that would surely generate a blockbuster brand of racing for bettors.
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