Lebron James Predictions

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Well I never saw Cousy play but I'm guessing that a he may have benefited from playing with 9 hall of famers.

Drexler is better than Scottie pippen? 1-1st team all NBA, 2-2nd team and 2-3rd team
Pippen was all NBA 1st team 3 times and 2nd team 3 times and third team once plus 1st team all defensive team 8 times

Barkley was a good player, well at one end.

James Worthy wouldn't even be in the hoF without Magic Johnson. Never made all NBA 1st or 2nd team.

I didn't know making all NBA teams was the only criteria.

How many plays did Worthy or Drexler opt out of (in a playoff game) because they didn't get the play called for them?

Pippen was a great player on great teams. We'll agree to disagree about Worthy.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I didn't know making all NBA teams was the only criteria.

How many plays did Worthy or Drexler opt out of (in a playoff game) because they didn't get the play called for them?

Pippen was a great player on great teams. We'll agree to disagree about Worthy.

So being one of the 5 or 10 best players in the league isnt important? We can agree that Pippen was obviously far superior defensively to all the players listed?

I love how the body of work of a player is suddenly not important because of one boneheaded moment.

James Worthy was a 17 point a game player that didnt rebound much, pass or play great defense. 17-5-3 for his career.

[Cannon Shell]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5365794

Beasley to Wolves for 2nd round pick. Though there was an interesting note that said that the teams would swap a future 1st rounder but didnt give details. More cap space for Riley to work with and an enigma eliminated. So if they have a MLE and I guess about 5 million from Beasley they can get three semi-live bodies to go along with the other 4.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5365794

Beasley to Wolves for 2nd round pick. Though there was an interesting note that said that the teams would swap a future 1st rounder but didnt give details. More cap space for Riley to work with and an enigma eliminated. So if they have a MLE and I guess about 5 million from Beasley they can get three semi-live bodies to go along with the other 4.

Mike Miller to Heat. Riley is working quickly to fill in the gaps. Let me make it 2-5 that dala says this too is a bad move.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Mike Miller to Heat. Riley is working quickly to fill in the gaps. Let me make it 2-5 that dala says this too is a bad move.

I hate Mike Miller but at those dollars for what they need him to do, its a great signing.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I hate Mike Miller but at those dollars for what they need him to do, its a great signing.

You dont like him because he has nicer hair than you do

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So being one of the 5 or 10 best players in the league isnt important? We can agree that Pippen was obviously far superior defensively to all the players listed?

I love how the body of work of a player is suddenly not important because of one boneheaded moment.

James Worthy was a 17 point a game player that didnt rebound much, pass or play great defense. Arguably the worst modern player in the hall of fame. 17-5-3 for his career.

Yes he was better defensively. I don't remember saying his entire body of work isn't important. I just brought up that he quit on his team when they needed him. You might not think that is important, but some might.

I love how being a 17 point a game player on a team of 3 hall of famers isn't important. Averaging 21 points in the game in the playoffs isn't important.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Yes he was better defensively. I don't remember saying his entire body of work isn't important. I just brought up that he quit on his team when they needed him. You might not think that is important, but some might.

I love how being a 17 point a game player on a team of 3 hall of famers isn't important. Averaging 21 points in the game in the playoffs isn't important.

???

What does playing with three hall of famers have to do with averaging 17 a game? And that was in a high scoring era. Did they tell him not to rebound?

And I was never a big fan of Pippens or the Bulls. But he was a better player than James Worthy.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

???

What does playing with three hall of famers have to do with averaging 17 a game? And that was in a high scoring era. Did they tell him not to rebound?

And I was never a big fan of Pippens or the Bulls. But he was a better player than James Worthy.

We'll agree to disagree. If I was a coach I'd rather have Worthy on my team than Pippen.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

We'll agree to disagree. If I was a coach I'd rather have Worthy on my team than Pippen.

It all boils down to what that particular team needs. In halfcourt offense Worthy was infinitely better than Scottie Pippen. Pippen was actually pretty useless in the halfcourt offense.
He was, however, good in transition, and one of the best defensive players in the history of the sport.

Pippen is just a really hard player to judge, both because he had a fairly unique skill-set, and because he played most of his career with the greatest athlete in the history of time.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by miraja2

It all boils down to what that particular team needs. In halfcourt offense Worthy was infinitely better than Scottie Pippen. Pippen was actually pretty useless in the halfcourt offense.
He was, however, good in transition, and one of the best defensive players in the history of the sport.

Pippen is just a really hard player to judge, both because he had a fairly unique skill-set, and because he played most of his career with the greatest athlete in the history of time.

Worthy played wing on a fast break offense with the best point guard in history. I could have scored 15 and grabbed 5 rebounds a game in that offense with magic.

Since defense is 1/2 the game and pippen was easily one of the top defensive players in the game it is hard to say a guy who scored 17 points a game makes that an even trade.

If you were choosing teams from scratch and you had to take one of these two, virtually everyone would choose Pippen. Worthy's skill set was just not that unique in the NBA. Pippen's absolutely were.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

???

What does playing with three hall of famers have to do with averaging 17 a game? And that was in a high scoring era. Did they tell him not to rebound?

And I was never a big fan of Pippens or the Bulls. But he was a better player than James Worthy.

You are drunk if you think Pippen was better than Worthy!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

You are drunk if you think Pippen was better than Worthy!

This sort of makes my case for me.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This sort of makes my case for me.

Yeah, I realized I was wrong after I saw that.