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Old 06-30-2010, 11:56 PM
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Blame is the most overrated.
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Old 06-30-2010, 11:58 PM
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Blame is the most overrated.
He's logical ... but have you actually heard what people have been saying about Zenyatta?
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:13 AM
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By the way ... of all the things posters and those in the press are notorious for sucking at the most ... it is how they go about forming their idiotic judgements on who they say is overrated and who they say is underrated.

There's a very simple method for doing this the correct way.

You look at each division as its own entity ... you isolate the divisions who are both strongest and weakest in terms of depth and quality in relation to years and years past within that same division.

To find the most overrated horse ... you're simply looking for the horse with the most impressive set of credentials earned without showing the expected quality of performance befitting of a horse with those credential and earned without facing the expected quality of opponet befitting a horse of its repute and credentials.

To the find the most underrated horse ... you're simply looking for an impressive horse without impressive credentials because they've faced historically strong divisional competition which has alllowed them to become overshaddowed.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:21 AM
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Zenyatta is a clear winner for being the most overrated, since she is nowhere near the best filly or mare of all time.

Any argument made against this reasoning is simply proof of being retarded.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:23 AM
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I was having trouble coming up with an underrated horse, and then it occurred to me, that MMSC was asking a trick question, since it's nearly impossible to underrate anyone currently running.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:31 AM
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I was having trouble coming up with an underrated horse, and then it occurred to me, that MMSC was asking a trick question, since it's nearly impossible to underrate anyone currently running.
It's not easy picking a most underrated horse so far this year... but here's my pick.

http://community.drf.com/files/hollywood-hit.pdf


You're talking about an Oklahoma bred racing in Canada that pretty much no one cares about ... he's beaten some pretty nice horses and run some very fast races .. especially for synthetic surfaces.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:43 AM
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It's not easy picking a most underrated horse so far this year... but here's my pick.

http://community.drf.com/files/hollywood-hit.pdf


You're talking about an Oklahoma bred racing in Canada that pretty much no one cares about ... he's beaten some pretty nice horses and run some very fast races .. especially for synthetic surfaces.
Wow, that's a pretty nice looking horse. However, now that you've outed him, PG1985 will become aware of this horse and proclaim him the greatest sprinter since Zensational, thus either making him the most overrated horse this year, or not making him the most overrated horse this year.

Either way, he's almost a certainty to win OK bred HOY 2010.
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Old 07-01-2010, 09:55 AM
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Blame is the most overrated.
Based on what? Who in this Country is 100% better then him right now? At best you could name 3 horses, and thats even pushing it.... How is he not the clear cut second best older male in training, and if he came along a year earlier he would have won the Older Male title last year, you cant tell me he would not have crushed Bullsbay, and Macho Again on a regular basis. Nevermind... He did beat up on them, as a 3yr old.
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Old 07-01-2010, 10:02 AM
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Based on what? Who in this Country is 100% better then him right now? At best you could name 3 horses, and thats even pushing it.... How is he not the clear cut second best older male in training, and if he came along a year earlier he would have won the Older Male title last year, you cant tell me he would not have crushed Bullsbay, and Macho Again on a regular basis. Nevermind... He did beat up on them, as a 3yr old.
See Dougie's post on finding overrated horses.
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Old 07-01-2010, 10:17 AM
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overrated---------Gio Ponti

underrated--------Quality Road

If this was a year with no smack talk between Zen and Rachel, Q Road would truly be front and center with no equals.

Gio Ponti sometimes just barely good enough and other times not, BC champ race might have made many believe he was better than he really is.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:18 PM
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overrated---------Gio Ponti

underrated--------Quality Road

If this was a year with no smack talk between Zen and Rachel, Q Road would truly be front and center with no equals.

Gio Ponti sometimes just barely good enough and other times not, BC champ race might have made many believe he was better than he really is.
I'm a moron but you just reminded me of something...

When I was doing this thread, before I was interrrupted? Gio was my pick for overrated and Wiener Walzer (GER) for underrated.

Stupid kids making me blank out!
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:20 PM
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Granted his 2010 has been rather underwhelming thus far but Gio Ponti's 4 race winning streak in 2009 in Grade I races from 8-11 furlongs was awfully strong.

It's tough to have an underrated/overrated list when most horses are so bad.

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Old 07-01-2010, 06:12 PM
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I'm a moron but you just reminded me of something...

When I was doing this thread, before I was interrrupted? Gio was my pick for overrated and Wiener Walzer (GER) for underrated.

Stupid kids making me blank out!
glad I refreshed your memory
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