John Boehner R-Ohio, says use Social Security funds to pay for war

[Riot]

you are the queen of the backtrack, but there is no way your last statement wasnt directed towards me.

My last statement was directed to the "opinion", not to you personally.

but I'll let it go.

My, thank goodness!

ROFLMAO.

Okay, continue:

Who are the "many people" that feel like everyone else's retirement should be paid from the hard workers' paycheck?

Social Security isn't supposed to "pay for retirement", it's a social program. A fallback. Because some Americans care about their fellow citizens.

The "many people"? Pretty much every President since Roosevelt in the mid-1930's, the majority of our elected Congress and Senate since. The citizens of the US. All have rejected eliminating social security.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Social Security isn't supposed to "pay for retirement", it's a social program. A fallback. Because some Americans care about their fellow citizens.

Nope. That might have been the original motivations of some legitimately kind, but misguided, people.

It persists not because "some Americans care about their fellow citizens", but because all Americans are coerced into surrendering about 16% of their income to the program. I deliberately say 16% because the "you pay 8% and your employer pays 8%" is utter nonsense. The employee pays it all, just like every other tax. You can bin it up any way you like, but the fact is your employer, should you be enough of a sucker to work, views it as "the cost to employ John Q. Public"

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Nope. That might have been the original motivations of some legitimately kind, but misguided, people.

It persists not because "some Americans care about their fellow citizens", but because all Americans are coerced into surrendering about 16% of their income to the program. I deliberately say 16% because the "you pay 8% and your employer pays 8%" is utter nonsense. The employee pays it all, just like every other tax. You can bin it up any way you like, but the fact is your employer, should you be enough of a sucker to work, views it as "the cost to employ John Q. Public"

I would say Social Security persists because the majority of American citizens over the past 70 years have wanted it to persist. If they did not want it, they could easily have elected representatives that would repeal it. They haven't.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I would say Social Security persists because the majority of American citizens over the past 70 years have wanted it to persist. If they did not want it, they could easily have elected representatives that would repeal it. They haven't.

It persists because the govt lacks the funds to pay everyone that has paid into it back. The idea that compassion determines anything that is done in Washington outside of Barney Franks townhouse is laughable.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It persists because the govt lacks the funds to pay everyone that has paid into it back. The idea that compassion determines anything that is done in Washington outside of Barney Franks townhouse is laughable.

Never let the truth get in the way of a Riot post!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Never let the truth get in the way of a Riot post!

Amazing that you, too, think "payback" is the only thing standing in the way of eliminating social security.

Right

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It persists because the govt lacks the funds to pay everyone that has paid into it back.

Nonsense. Just vote in people to repeal it. Gather your fellow citizens. Stop further collections immediately. Let the payout be pro-rated among those that have contributed until it's all gone. Easy.

Amazing that you think "payback" is the only thing standing in the way of eliminating social security.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Nonsense. Just vote in people to repeal it. Gather your fellow citizens. Stop further collections immediately. Let the payout be pro-rated among those that have contributed until it's all gone. Easy.

Amazing that you think "payback" is the only thing standing in the way of eliminating social security.

Amazing that you think that it is possible.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Amazing that you think that it is possible.

Of course it's possible. Social Security could certainly be repealed. It hasn't been possible so far. Apparently citizens don't think it's necessary. Hence, social security exists.