HOY prediction game

RockHardTen1985 · #1 06-29-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky

I'm trying to figure out what's gonna go down with Older Female. Even if RA or Zenyatta both miss out on HOY, it's gonna potentially hit the fan in their own division.

Can we just take a second to discuss what the heck is up with Mine That Bird? It's like he's been eating his Wheaties all winter & spring. Haskin said he doesn't look like the same horse, and I was struck by his appearance along with those bullets he's throwing. I've always thought he was a nice little Rodney Dangerfield kinda horse that deserved more respect than he got post-KD. Who knows what he's gonna do this weekend. You'd think Quality Road has the momentum, but our two ladies are more than capable of looking the part of an HOY as they showed last year.

Own division? Z is 3/3 this year, I think 2 G1's.
Rachel is 1/3, losing to 2 horses who both came back to get beat. Right now Z is way way way ahead as far as Older Filly N Mare championship.

cmorioles · #2 06-29-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Own division? Z is 3/3 this year, I think 2 G1's.
Rachel is 1/3, losing to 2 horses who both came back to get beat. Right now Z is way way way ahead as far as Older Filly N Mare championship.

Both are so weak they have no real lead yet. The rest of the year will determine the outcome.

RockHardTen1985 · #3 06-29-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

Both are so weak they have no real lead yet. The rest of the year will determine the outcome.

I totally agree about them both being weak, but to say Z is not well ahead is kind of silly IMO. They were supposed to face in the AB, Z showed up, Rachel got beat by Zardana and skipped it. I just think Z has done much more, AT THIS POINT.

clyde · #4 06-29-2010, 05:20 PM

Who is Ditto?

cmorioles · #5 06-29-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I totally agree about them both being weak, but to say Z is not well ahead is kind of silly IMO. They were supposed to face in the AB, Z showed up, Rachel got beat by Zardana and skipped it. I just think Z has done much more, AT THIS POINT.

I agree, but it won't matter. What matters is who wins from July onward. It just doesn't matter which is ahead right now.

RockHardTen1985 · #6 06-29-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

I agree, but it won't matter. What matters is who wins from July onward. It just doesn't matter which is ahead right now.

I guess I agree, really dont know why I am talking up to this point.

The Indomitable DrugS · #7 06-29-2010, 06:16 PM

Brass Hat.

Danzig · #8 06-29-2010, 06:53 PM

colonel klink

Smooth Operator · #9 06-30-2010, 10:07 AM

QR for Iron-horse-of-the-Year…

alysheba4 · #10 06-30-2010, 02:52 PM

as a big zenyatta fan, i want to see the horse try saratoga. its a shame her owner is so stuck with racing in california. come on man......try something new.
she has nothing to gain from racing here anymore.

DaTruth · #11 06-29-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I guess I agree, really dont know why I am talking up to this point.

Byk definitely could use you as a co-host.

smartbid09 · #12 06-29-2010, 05:22 PM

At this moment the race for HOY is between Quality Road and Zenyatta. Zenyatta holds a slight lead over Quality Road according to this acrticle:

'Quality Road cuts into Zenyatta's lead'
http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/06/28/...zenyattas.html

I don't know who would win HOY if the award was handed out today - but I am 100% certain it would be one of these two. Rachel is making her comeback but she isn't where she needs to be yet. I hope she gets back into perfect form - she's amazing!!!!

If I had a vote it would go to Zenyatta.

Quality Road, from what I see and hear, is believed to be America's best race horse right now...

Antitrust32 · #13 06-29-2010, 05:26 PM

If HOY was right now and Zenyatta won, I'd probably stop following racing.

Vote today - it would HAVE to be Quality Road.

Eskendera (sp?) deserves it more than "Big Z" at this point in time.

Merlinsky · #14 06-29-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Own division? Z is 3/3 this year, I think 2 G1's.
Rachel is 1/3, losing to 2 horses who both came back to get beat. Right now Z is way way way ahead as far as Older Filly N Mare championship.

Pumpkin, they vote at the end of the year. I don't give a flying clod of dirt who's "ahead" right now unless it's the big prize cuz I just don't care to waste brain cells on it. My point was everyone's obsessed about HOY and they don't even think that you could have a situation where *gasp* Zenyatta only gets Older Mare and the reigning HOY gets nothing, or Rachel soars to her old self and Zenyatta's return (following her not getting HOY for 2009) not only doesn't gain her the big prize, she doesn't get squat. I'm saying there's a result neither's connections seem to be aware of. They seem to be thinking that of course the big thing is HOY and their horse will get that and older mare both. Coming up empty isn't on their radar from what I can tell.

RA's just now getting herself in gear. She's perfectly capable of earning an Eclipse with sterling performances the rest of the year. There are prizes to be had in the fall that would make everybody go 'New Orleans Ladies what now?'

RockHardTen1985 · #15 06-29-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Pumpkin, they vote at the end of the year. I don't give a flying clod of dirt who's "ahead" right now unless it's the big prize cuz I just don't care to waste brain cells on it. My point was everyone's obsessed about HOY and they don't even think that you could have a situation where *gasp* Zenyatta only gets Older Mare and the reigning HOY gets nothing, or Rachel soars to her old self and Zenyatta's return (following her not getting HOY for 2009) not only doesn't gain her the big prize, she doesn't get squat.

RA's just now getting herself in gear. She's perfectly capable of earning an Eclipse with sterling performances the rest of the year. There are prizes to be had in the fall that would make everybody go 'New Orleans Ladies what now?'

I think what you said is very realistic... Z get older male and someone else gets HOY... Blame at this point is far ahead of Rachel and Z for HOY.

smartbid09 · #16 06-29-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I think what you said is very realistic... Z get older male and someone else gets HOY... Blame at this point is far ahead of Rachel and Z for HOY.

I feel you are very passionate about this point of view RockHardTen. I'm not going to argue with you about the fact that someone other than Zenyatta would get HOY if the awards were given out right now - but there is no way that Blame is far ahead or even ahead of Zenyatta at this point for HOY award.

With all the West Coast on Zenyatta's bandwagon and with her recent thriller "accomplishment" of 17 races in a row Blame winning more votes than Zenyyata is hard for me to believe.

Blame does not earn more votes than Zenyatta if the award is handed out today...

RockHardTen1985 · #17 06-29-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by smartbid09

I feel you are very passionate about this point of view RockHardTen. I'm not going to argue with you about the fact that someone other than Zenyatta would get HOY if the awards were given out right now - but there is no way that Blame is far ahead or even ahead of Zenyatta at this point for HOY award.

With all the West Coast on Zenyatta's bandwagon and with her recent thriller "accomplishment" of 17 races in a row Blame winning more votes than Zenyyata is hard for me to believe.

Blame does not earn more votes than Zenyatta if the award is handed out today...

Blame is 2/2 with a G1 on dirt vs older males... That does it for me. I think Z would have won the Foster had she shown up though.

Merlinsky · #18 06-29-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I think what you said is very realistic... Z get older male and someone else gets HOY... Blame at this point is far ahead of Rachel and Z for HOY.

I just feel there's so much to know and see before the BC. It could all shift radically, becoming very clear or even more confusing. I hate to get too wrapped up in making a decision about where anybody stands. It's like asking who's gonna win the Derby in January and the 2yo champ's not even gotten in gear yet to give you something to think about. We're all driving on gas fumes here. Gotta get some more evidence. Only half the year is up.

RockHardTen1985 · #19 06-29-2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky

I just feel there's so much to know and see before the BC. It could all shift radically, becoming very clear or even more confusing. I hate to get too wrapped up in making a decision about where anybody stands. It's like asking who's gonna win the Derby in January and the 2yo champ's not even gotten in gear yet to give you something to think about. We're all driving on gas fumes here. Gotta get some more evidence. Only half the year is up.

I agree.

OldDog · #20 06-30-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Gotta get some more evidence. Only half the year is up.

Agreed. There is a lot of history to be written.