A Little Warm Returns... Tuesday, Delaware Park

RockHardTen1985 · #1 06-29-2010, 05:00 PM

Stupid horse had to stay at 6-5... Not even that I like him, as much as I was not sold on A Little Warm.

the_fat_man · #2 06-29-2010, 05:10 PM

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Stupid horse had to stay at 6-5... Not even that I like him, as much as I was not sold on A Little Warm.

Got a pick for the Arabians in the 10th?

RolloTomasi · #3 06-29-2010, 05:14 PM

Tentatively, does this race tend to make A Little Warm a contender for the Travers (Haskell/Jim Dandy first, of course) or does it merely write off Miner's Reserve as an elite 3yo?

blackthroatedwind · #4 06-29-2010, 05:24 PM

It was a very fast race.

RockHardTen1985 · #5 06-29-2010, 05:27 PM

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It was a very fast race.

I need to really learn this game then, I saw 2 horses plodding home who wanted no part of really going long, the 1 had really no excuse at all.

blackthroatedwind · #6 06-29-2010, 05:32 PM

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I need to really learn this game then, I saw 2 horses plodding home who wanted no part of really going long, the 1 had really no excuse at all.

Honestly, this is a given.

RockHardTen1985 · #7 06-29-2010, 05:33 PM

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Honestly, this is a given.

I know the race went 6 seconds faster then the one before, but that race before is like bottom level junk, no?

blackthroatedwind · #8 06-29-2010, 05:39 PM

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I know the race went 6 seconds faster then the one before, but that race before is like bottom level junk, no?

Instead of hastening to form opinions, sometimes it helps to actually do the real research, and quantify things as opposed to using useless generalizations.

" Bottom level junk " run speed figures as well. 38 lengths at 1 1/16 equals around 65 Beyer points. Everything is relative.

The third finisher in the 9th lost by 16 3/4 lengths. That's around 28 Beyer points. Did you look at his pps?

This stuff isn't rocket science.

Betsy · #9 06-29-2010, 05:57 PM

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It was a very fast race.

So if you were Nick, would you be disappointed? It looks like he set fast fractions and had every right to get tired. He may not want to run long as he appears to be something of a speed demon. I haven't seen the race, just read the recap in the Form.

the_fat_man · #10 06-29-2010, 06:11 PM

I'm going to go on a limb here as well and state that I don't want either of these plugs back in a major race, on a NON SPEED FAVORING SURFACE, either.

RockHardTen1985 · #11 06-29-2010, 06:14 PM

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I'm going to go on a limb here as well and state that I don't want either of these plugs back in a major race, on a NON SPEED FAVORING SURFACE, either.

Im not sure how much of a limb that is? Andy is right about me making a quick snap opinions, but I also trust my opinion. Would I give either of these 2 a shot against the likes of Trappe Shot, Lookin at Lucky, or even Afleet Express, NO WAY.

the_fat_man · #12 06-29-2010, 06:19 PM

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Im not sure how much of a limb that is?

I'm actually sweating it. You know how much FAST horses influence my handicapping.

ha ha ha

NTamm1215 · #13 06-29-2010, 07:02 PM

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Im not sure how much of a limb that is? Andy is right about me making a quick snap opinions, but I also trust my opinion. Would I give either of these 2 a shot against the likes of Trappe Shot, Lookin at Lucky, or even Afleet Express, NO WAY.

Let's not forget what Trappe Shot really is. I was impressed with his win on Belmont day but he's a fragile horse who was supposed to run in two graded stakes but didn't and instead beat a questionable allowance field (albeit in a nice final time) with a perfect trip.

He's good but to mention him as a top 3YO before we've even seen him go two turns is premature.

NT

blackthroatedwind · #14 06-29-2010, 06:28 PM

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I'm going to go on a limb here as well and state that I don't want either of these plugs back in a major race, on a NON SPEED FAVORING SURFACE, either.

I don't pay much attention to Delaware, that's being kind, but looking at the charts it didn't look like a big speed track. I realize that can be misleading but are you sure?

I take all Delaware races with a grain of salt, and I don't think anyone here is declaring the first two world beaters, despite how high the number will come back, but in this 3YO crop they aren't bad.

RockHardTen1985 · #15 06-29-2010, 06:32 PM

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I don't pay much attention to Delaware, that's being kind, but looking at the charts it didn't look like a big speed track. I realize that can be misleading but are you sure?

I take all Delaware races with a grain of salt, and I don't think anyone here is declaring the first two world beaters, despite how high the number will come back, but in this 3YO crop they aren't bad.

It goes both ways with me, because as much as I dislike these 2 moving forward I would guess they can be very competitive with the Derby and Belmont winners.....

RockHardTen1985 · #16 06-29-2010, 06:38 PM

http://www.drf.com/news/article/114303.html

blackthroatedwind · #17 06-29-2010, 06:48 PM

The early number is 106 for the winner.