Weekend Beyers

Wow... The Debutante is laughable.

[hockey2315]

Capital Account ran a 104.

[hockey2315]

In semi-related news. . . I'm pretty sure Afleet Express' allowance beyer from last month has been downgraded all the way from the prelim fig that was 110+ to a 101. . . It stopped in the middle for a while (and was listed at that level - 104 or 105 maybe - when the PP's for his last race were out). I'm starting to agree with all the Beyer-bashers - not because I think the figs are bad, but because their application/calculation has become a complete joke.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

In semi-related news. . . I'm pretty sure Afleet Express' allowance beyer from last month has been downgraded all the way from the prelim fig that was 110+ to a 101. . . It stopped in the middle for a while (and was listed at that level - 104 or 105 maybe - when the PP's for his last race were out). I'm starting to agree with all the Beyer-bashers - not because I think the figs are bad, but because their application/calculation has become a complete joke.

Today we have Serling exposing Castellano, and the NYRA stewards for continually allowing him to HERD. Castellano wasn't allowed to do this at WO, Serling points out. (They slapped him like the bitch he is.)

And now, we have a diehard devotee starting to rethink his paradigm.

What's next?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Today we have Serling exposing Castellano, and the NYRA stewards for continually allowing him to HERD. Castellano wasn't allowed to do this at WO, Serling points out. (They slapped him like the bitch he is.)

And now, we have a diehard devotee starting to rethink his paradigm.

What's next?

You posting sanely?

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You posting sanely?

I'm complementing you and you get paranoid again. You really need to get some help about that.

P.S. I also caught your comment on trips and traps about Shrewd One where you comment that it doesn't matter how fast they were going. So, SETUP does trump numeric pace, then, huh? But if that's the case, what happens to "no trips in slow races"?

[randallscott35]

Andy makes a point that needs to be made about jockeys getting hometown calls which screws up things in DQs consistently. On Belmont day Bravo should've come down in that turf sprint but Monmouth looked the other way. It's gross and it needs to stop...I realize they recently took him down in another race I believe. He needs days as he is careless. He doesn't deserve a Jersey discount.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I'm complementing you and you get paranoid again. You really need to get some help about that.

P.S. I also caught your comment on trips and traps about Shrewd One where you comment that it doesn't matter how fast they were going. So, SETUP does trump numeric pace, then, huh? But if that's the case, what happens to "no trips in slow races"?

I was joking.

However, after this post perhaps I should reconsider.

I'll have to review that T&T to find out what I was REALLY saying.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I'm complementing you and you get paranoid again. You really need to get some help about that.

P.S. I also caught your comment on trips and traps about Shrewd One where you comment that it doesn't matter how fast they were going. So, SETUP does trump numeric pace, then, huh? But if that's the case, what happens to "no trips in slow races"?

OK, now I know what you were referring to.

What I was saying was that, basically, while the pace appears relatively slow ( I would guess it was actually on the fair to fast side ), I'm not overly concerned with that, as from a dynamics standpoint, it collapsed. Part of that may have been very much related to the contestants as well.

However, this was FAR from a " slow " race....so, sorry, I hate to end today's hot streak for you, but this was not a " no trips in slow races " situation. In fact, not even close.