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[Honu]

Wow is all I can say . The first thing I learned in Debate and also in Speech class is that if you get stuck it is better to just pause for a second than say UH.
My teacher told me that when you are speaking in front of people that when you say UH it gives the audience the impression that you are at a loss for words and not prepared. Then again I was educated in America and as Riot would say America isnt known for its general education level of its citizens.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Naw, c'mon, that's not true in the least. Where does this stuff come from? There are multiple TV interviews where he's speaking entirely extemporaneously, for minutes on end, no notes, articulate and knowledgable.

Palin could run rings around even Bush, however.

And ALWAYS stays on point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX0PSoCTFas

[Danzig]

thing is, many of those interviews have the questions laid out in advance. it's when there are off the cuff questions that he starts with the uh.....um....uh.....


but, yeah. no truth at all in that. i'm just making it all up because i have an agenda. it's not because i've actually witnessed it in action or anything.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

And ALWAYS stays on point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX0PSoCTFas

lol
you know, it's a petty point...but it's still funny. i think it's akin to sarah palin not being able to name any founding fathers- i like them all-she said.

i've been a die-hard redskin fan my entire life. i can even name the freaking punter from way back when (mike bragg, wore #4. mark mosely, one of the last straight on kickers was #3)....there is no way i'd ever change teams. been a caps fan since their inception-i was eight. it's hard pulling for those teams now, living down here. but i still do it.


but he's a politician, none of them can give a straight answer on anything.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

not true 'in the least'?? i've seen him stammer and stutter more than once, thanks very much. so, yes it is true. you not wanting something to be true doesn't automatically mean it's false.

Since when is having the irritating speech pattern habit (yes, I do find it irritating) of inserting "uh" as one forms sentences defined as "stutter and stammer" or, more ridiculously, "inarticulate"?

Calling Obama - well known for his public speaking ability - "inarticulate" is yes, pretty beyond absurd

You guys don't have to like listening to him, but classifying him "as inarticulate as Bush" is beyond a stretch

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

thing is, many of those interviews have the questions laid out in advance. it's when there are off the cuff questions that he starts with the uh.....um....uh.....


but, yeah. no truth at all in that. i'm just making it all up because i have an agenda. it's not because i've actually witnessed it in action or anything.

So we just ignore the parts where he doesn't do any of the uh ... stuff, and speaks on and on for minutes?

Sure

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Since when is having the irritating speech pattern habit (yes, I do find it irritating) of inserting "uh" as one forms sentences defined as "stutter and stammer" or, more ridiculously, "inarticulate"?

Calling Obama - well known for his public speaking ability - "inarticulate" is yes, pretty beyond absurd

You guys don't have to like listening to him, but classifying him "as inarticulate as Bush" is beyond a stretch

i find it annoying, but not nearly as annoying as repeated 'you know?'s or 'like'....

and i think it's a stretch to say that someone is a good speaker based solely on prepared remarks. however, when obama is not prepared, he's a big uhm-er. do you think someone sounds articulate when they say uh, um repeatedly? i didn't say he was inarticulate, i said when he stammers and makes noises while formulating a response that makes him sound that way. big difference.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i find it annoying, but not nearly as annoying as repeated 'you know?'s or 'like'....

and i think it's a stretch to say that someone is a good speaker based solely on prepared remarks. however, when obama is not prepared, he's a big uhm-er. do you think someone sounds articulate when they say uh, um repeatedly? i didn't say he was inarticulate, i said when he stammers and makes noises while formulating a response that makes him sound that way. big difference.

I think it's annoying, too. But to me articulate is certainly in the words, and the way they are strung together - George W Bush was called a speaking "blunderer of historic proportions".

Someone else just reminded me of another President, also considered a very good speaker, who had a similar pausing, word-choosing hesitant style:
" Uh, .... well ...... "

Ronald Reagan