Obama Admin. to Sue Arizona

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Originally Posted by Danzig

not true 'in the least'?? i've seen him stammer and stutter more than once, thanks very much. so, yes it is true. you not wanting something to be true doesn't automatically mean it's false.

Since when is having the irritating speech pattern habit (yes, I do find it irritating) of inserting "uh" as one forms sentences defined as "stutter and stammer" or, more ridiculously, "inarticulate"?

Calling Obama - well known for his public speaking ability - "inarticulate" is yes, pretty beyond absurd

You guys don't have to like listening to him, but classifying him "as inarticulate as Bush" is beyond a stretch

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Since when is having the irritating speech pattern habit (yes, I do find it irritating) of inserting "uh" as one forms sentences defined as "stutter and stammer" or, more ridiculously, "inarticulate"?

Calling Obama - well known for his public speaking ability - "inarticulate" is yes, pretty beyond absurd

You guys don't have to like listening to him, but classifying him "as inarticulate as Bush" is beyond a stretch

i find it annoying, but not nearly as annoying as repeated 'you know?'s or 'like'....

and i think it's a stretch to say that someone is a good speaker based solely on prepared remarks. however, when obama is not prepared, he's a big uhm-er. do you think someone sounds articulate when they say uh, um repeatedly? i didn't say he was inarticulate, i said when he stammers and makes noises while formulating a response that makes him sound that way. big difference.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i find it annoying, but not nearly as annoying as repeated 'you know?'s or 'like'....

and i think it's a stretch to say that someone is a good speaker based solely on prepared remarks. however, when obama is not prepared, he's a big uhm-er. do you think someone sounds articulate when they say uh, um repeatedly? i didn't say he was inarticulate, i said when he stammers and makes noises while formulating a response that makes him sound that way. big difference.

I think it's annoying, too. But to me articulate is certainly in the words, and the way they are strung together - George W Bush was called a speaking "blunderer of historic proportions".

Someone else just reminded me of another President, also considered a very good speaker, who had a similar pausing, word-choosing hesitant style:
" Uh, .... well ...... "

Ronald Reagan