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Old 06-21-2010, 03:27 PM
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Well, let's say that he's not an American, and that's what he's hiding.

If that's the case, this was the best plan in all of history -- and I mean ALL of history. To take a Black boy born in 1961, three years before the Civil Rights Act of 1964, come up with the awesome idea that this foreigner of color would 50 years later be able to infiltrate the United States government by passing as a citizen, and deciding that in lieu of any actual proof that they may need to show, they would put a congratulations to themselves in the paper just in case they needed an alibi 50 years later.

Mind you, this child then had to have the aptitude to go graduate law school, become an excellent public speaker, win elections....and they foresaw all of this 50 years in advance in a country where Blacks at the time still didn't even have full and equal rights.

Really?

How can such a wingnut theory be anything *but* a non-issue? Are you kidding me? If that's the case, the f*cking guy deserves to be President anyway because of the sheer amazing power of awesome that it took to hatch that plan over the course of 50 years, and the brilliance of his parents/keepers/masterminds who had the ability to choose the *one* child who would be able to fulfill this plan, and make a newspaper announcement about his birth to quell the inevitable questions five decades later.

Yes. You're right Rupert, the real fools in this situation are the ones who don't ask to see his birth certificate. You got us there, because they've made fools of us with the most awesome plan in the history of the universe. This is like the Trojan Horse on 50-year steroids. FFS.
Who are you arguing with? I don't know a single person in the world that thinks this was a vast conspiracy that started 50 years ago. Whoever said that?

I don't know the explanation for the newspaper announcement of his birth. Has it been authenticated? If it has, then I could come up with another argument as to why they made the announcement. Maybe his mom wanted people to think he was born in Hawaii so that he would immediately, automatically be a US citizen. Nobody is claiming that the announcement (assuming the announcemt was authentic) was put in the paper in case he ever wanted to run for President 50 years later. That is absurd.
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:36 PM
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That is absurd.
Of course it is. That's why I can't believe that you're continuing to carry on like a fool with this stuff. "Nobody is arguing that, because that would be craaaaaazy!" As opposed to the very reasonable things you're writing. LOL. I just upped the ante a bit.

If he's not an American, that's really the only explanation for all of it, and it's only marginally more absurd than the insane birther theories to begin with. And these people who planned this out decades ago did excellent work. Geez, the more I type about this, the more I start to believe you, Rupert. They *really* just might have pulled this off!!!
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:49 PM
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Of course it is. That's why I can't believe that you're continuing to carry on like a fool with this stuff.

If he's not an American, that's really the only explanation for all of it, and it's only marginally more absurd than the insane birther theories to begin with. And these people who planned this out decades ago did excellent work. Geez, the more I type about this, the more I start to believe you, Rupert. They *really* just might have pulled this off!!!
What are you talking about? Nobody thinks that. Nobody thinks this was planned decades ago.

We don't even know that the newspaper announcements are authentic. And as I said, even if they are authentic, there are far more innocuous explanations than a 50 year conspircay theory. How about his mom wanting her son to be a US citizen?

If it makes you feel good to think that anyone who questions Obama's birthplace is crazy, then more power to you. Whatever makes you feel good is fine with me.
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:58 PM
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If it makes you feel good to think that anyone who questions Obama's birthplace is crazy, then more power to you. Whatever makes you feel good is fine with me.
In that case, I feel excellent about having your approval to think birthers, yourself included, are f*cking nuts.

With real issues to complain about that have real merit, it simply amazes me that people waste their time with crazy conspiracy theories like this, rather than criticizing Obama on the things he should be criticized on. It just takes the teeth out of any other real criticism you lob his way, like anyone who thought Bush ordered 9/11 shouldn't be taken seriously in their other criticisms of Bush because clearly their entire mind is muddled with crap that doesn't allow them to think clearly.

Really though, who cares what the crazy guy who insists Obama is a Kenyan born in Nairobi thinks? Any real ability to be objective is obviously gone, and Obama is playing you and those like you for absolute hilarious fools by letting you embarrass yourself like this. Carry on.
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Old 06-21-2010, 04:11 PM
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In that case, I feel excellent about having your approval to think birthers, yourself included, are f*cking nuts.

With real issues to complain about that have real merit, it simply amazes me that people waste their time with crazy conspiracy theories like this, rather than criticizing Obama on the things he should be criticized on. It just takes the teeth out of any other real criticism you lob his way, like anyone who thought Bush ordered 9/11 shouldn't be taken seriously in their other criticisms of Bush because clearly their entire mind is muddled with crap that doesn't allow them to think clearly.

Really though, who cares what the crazy guy who insists Obama is a Kenyan born in Nairobi thinks? Any real ability to be objective is obviously gone, and Obama is playing you and those like you for absolute hilarious fools by letting you embarrass yourself like this. Carry on.
Where he was born doesn't affect the job he is doing. Does it really matter whether he moved to Hawaii when he was 1 month old vs being born in Hawaii? It's not going to have any effect on his job perfomance.
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