I need to listen to ATR more often

[Indian Charlie]

Just listening now.

He ranked Azeri, prior to Zenyatta anyways, as the 2nd best mare he's ever seen.

Nuff said.

He's clueless.

And if Zenyatta is the best mare he's ever seen, shouldn't she be able to beat Quality Road?

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Just listening now.

He ranked Azeri, prior to Zenyatta anyways, as the 2nd best mare he's ever seen.

Nuff said.

He's clueless.

And if Zenyatta is the best mare he's ever seen, shouldn't she be able to beat Quality Road?

Maybe he didn't wear glasses from 1970-1995

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

And if Zenyatta is the best mare he's ever seen, shouldn't she be able to beat Quality Road?

This absolutely cracked me up. She's the best mare of his lifetime because of what he's seen, she could compete with the best males of the last 25 years but he wouldn't bet her to beat Quality Road? That was where he completely lost all credibility to me. He got close after comparing the 1988 BC Distaff to the 2010 Vanity.

NT

[slotdirt]

Would anybody rank Quality Road in the top 50 handicap horses of the last 25 years?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Would anybody rank Quality Road in the top 50 handicap horses of the last 25 years?

RHT1985 would i'm sure.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Would anybody rank Quality Road in the top 50 handicap horses of the last 25 years?

I have him 47th

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I have him 47th

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Would anybody rank Quality Road in the top 50 handicap horses of the last 25 years?

Actually, I think he is on track to easily making that list. 50 over 25 years, so an average of 2 a year in an age when horses race less and less and many great 3yo's are sent to the breeding shed. He's set 3 track records in a short career. How many others can say that since 1985?

[slotdirt]

I was actually trying to think of 49 horses superior to Quality Road going a route of ground since 1990, and I think we could probably come up with a pretty good list. Quality Road would be aiming for listed stakes or would be probably pacesetter fodder in the 96-98 or so years.

Zenyatta did cross the Mighty Mississipp once, though she was kindly kept in her stall rather than run on that awful muddy track!

[slotdirt]

That Ouija Board was only 10 for 22 lifetime! Hardly the stuff of legend!

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

That Ouija Board was only 10 for 22 lifetime! Hardly the stuff of legend!

John Henry sucked.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

That Ouija Board was only 10 for 22 lifetime! Hardly the stuff of legend!

Another statement that is impossibly clueless to the point that I don't know if you are serious or just stirring the pot.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Zenyatta did cross the Mighty Mississipp once, though she was kindly kept in her stall rather than run on that awful muddy track!

The prospect of facing superstar Miss Isella was a daunting one.

[slotdirt]

Gallorette won a measly 21 times in 72 starts. And she only beat Stymie once and - gasp! - ran against Triple Crown winner Assault. Hall pass revoked!

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

Actually, I think he is on track to easily making that list. 50 over 25 years, so an average of 2 a year in an age when horses race less and less and many great 3yo's are sent to the breeding shed. He's set 3 track records in a short career. How many others can say that since 1985?

I can think of 5 from 2003 alone, and I'm not sure this is an all-time year:

Mineshaft, Candy Ride, Congaree, Medaglia d'Oro, and Pleasantly Perfect

[slotdirt]

Will's Way, Skip Away, Siphon, Formal Gold.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by cakes44

I can think of 5 from 2003 alone, and I'm not sure this is an all-time year:

Mineshaft, Candy Ride, Congaree, Medaglia d'Oro, and Pleasantly Perfect

Or the year that had Gentlemen, Skip Away, Will's Way and Formal Gold.

[OldDog]

Steve Byk: "...in the meantime, before we do that, let me welcome in Seth Merrow."

Seth Merrow: "I...I'm scared."

I thought Steve was going to jump out of my computer. dayum.

It's all opinions. Davidowitz said, “There’s a very unusual dimension to her, and there are to all great horses. They have something different.” He said that he knows that many will disagree with him, and that that's fine. He's just telling what he sees, and why not? It's what he gets paid to do. He also said that Z is, “the best older racemare I have ever seen.” Again, it's his opinion.

Sidebar: There's a lot of talk about trying to bring people back to horseracing, or introduce new people to the sport. Many experienced players seem to worry a lot that newcomers are going to think that Z is perhaps better than she is. Yes, a lot of newbies are going to believe that Z is the greatest horse, whether or not she is. But, people seek out greatness, and if they're new to the sport then maybe she is the greatest horse that they've ever seen. And yeah, maybe you can come back at them with 100 reasons why they're wrong, and if you do, what have you accomplished if you beat them over the head with it?

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

Actually, I think he is on track to easily making that list. 50 over 25 years, so an average of 2 a year in an age when horses race less and less and many great 3yo's are sent to the breeding shed. He's set 3 track records in a short career. How many others can say that since 1985?

Spend A Buck ?