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Old 06-16-2010, 04:22 AM
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How is Azeri better? I loved Azeri but i don't think you can stack her resume up against Zenyatta's.

Azeri never beat boys and she didnt win the BC classic.
I think they are very comparable except in that Zenyatta has never gone east and faced the best competition. If Azeri had stayed retired how would she have been remembered? Zenyatta did beat the boys but lets face it she isnt undefeated if she doesnt have a cupcake schedule.
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Old 06-16-2010, 04:29 AM
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Davidowitz is clearly suffering from a horse racing version of Stockholm Syndrome where he has been held captive by the idea that Curlin was one of the top 10 horses of all time, where horses regularly retire after the TC, where campaigns like Ghostzapper's are embraced, where winning streaks are suddenly important even if they are achieved without running against top competition, where rapid fan bases whose sense of history begins with Smarty Jones become experts. He is simply sympathizing with his captors.
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:35 AM
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Davidowitz is clearly suffering from a horse racing version of Stockholm Syndrome where he has been held captive by the idea that Curlin was one of the top 10 horses of all time, where horses regularly retire after the TC, where campaigns like Ghostzapper's are embraced, where winning streaks are suddenly important even if they are achieved without running against top competition, where rapid fan bases whose sense of history begins with Smarty Jones become experts. He is simply sympathizing with his captors.

but, he wrote a book. you really need to respect his opinion more.
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Old 06-16-2010, 11:42 PM
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I think they are very comparable except in that Zenyatta has never gone east and faced the best competition. If Azeri had stayed retired how would she have been remembered? Zenyatta did beat the boys but lets face it she isnt undefeated if she doesnt have a cupcake schedule.
The thing is, if she runs in the 2002 BC Classic, she has a very good shot at winning. She was in peak form at that point and that was a pretty weak BC Classic. Instead, they wait until she is past her peak and throw her to the wolves against Ghostzapper and Rosesinmay.

Still, I think Zenyatta is a better mare. I think the dirt/synthetic thing is way overblown with this one. Chuck, is there a horse out there right now besides Quality Road that you would bet even money on against her in a full field 10f race on dirt?
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Old 06-17-2010, 04:26 AM
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The thing is, if she runs in the 2002 BC Classic, she has a very good shot at winning. She was in peak form at that point and that was a pretty weak BC Classic. Instead, they wait until she is past her peak and throw her to the wolves against Ghostzapper and Rosesinmay.

Still, I think Zenyatta is a better mare. I think the dirt/synthetic thing is way overblown with this one. Chuck, is there a horse out there right now besides Quality Road that you would bet even money on against her in a full field 10f race on dirt?
Zenyatta may be better but they are comparable. Zenyatta has for the most part ducked the top competition. Azeri in the non-Lukas portion of her career ducked top competition.

Think about your last sentence and then think about her last two campaigns.
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