Ahhhhh she did it!!!!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by CSC

Man of War, Citation... All before my time...Honestly for a relatively young guy like me, never heard of them.

Well they are before my time as well but they have these things called books...

And if you don't know the history of the game why do you feel so comfortable in placing Zenyatta among the greats of the game?

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Well they are before my time as well but they have these things called books...

And if you don't know the history of the game why do you feel so comfortable in placing Zenyatta among the greats of the game?

Come on, make a real arguement! None of that matters when talking about this subject. And who wants to read books when we have such things as message boards, Facebook Fan Groups, TVG and YouTube!

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Well they are before my time as well but they have these things called books...

And if you don't know the history of the game why do you feel so comfortable in placing Zenyatta among the greats of the game?

Let's revisit this after Nov.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by CSC

Let's revisit this after Nov.

Why? What can happen in November?

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Why? What can happen in November?

Thanksgiving, silly. Everything calms down when we stuff face with all that triptophan. I just hope nobody gets so full they loosen their belt or open their zipper. That opens up a whole new can of--nevermind.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Thanksgiving, silly. Everything calms down when we stuff face with all that triptophan. I just hope nobody gets so full they loosen their belt or open their zipper. That opens up a whole new can of--nevermind.

do tell!!

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Danzig

do tell!!

I meant unbutton their pants I suppose. Oops. Please don't lower zippers sitting next to your cousin and Auntie Martha.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

I meant unbutton their pants I suppose. Oops. Please don't lower zippers sitting next to your cousin and Auntie Martha.

lol

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Thanksgiving, silly. Everything calms down when we stuff face with all that triptophan. I just hope nobody gets so full they loosen their belt or open their zipper. That opens up a whole new can of--nevermind.

And people wonder why I call her Lewinsky.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Why? What can happen in November?

Cannon,

It's one person's opinion but coming from Steve Davidowitz, you listen.

I believe for an absolute certainty that Zenyatta’s Vanity run reinforced the notion that she is the best race mare of my lifetime, if not one of the top horses of any age or sex since Secretariat, Affirmed, Seattle Slew, Ruffian and Spectacular Bid were dominating the 1970s.

Here's the entire read: http://beat.bodoglife.com/horseracin...ces-90865.html

*looks for vomit emoticon*

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by CSC

Cannon,

It's one person's opinion but coming from Steve Davidowitz, you listen.

I believe for an absolute certainty that Zenyatta’s Vanity run reinforced the notion that she is the best race mare of my lifetime, if not one of the top horses of any age or sex since Secretariat, Affirmed, Seattle Slew, Ruffian and Spectacular Bid were dominating the 1970s.

Wow. What a tard. A complete and utter tard.

That's tardiness beyond even what you and Prostate Operator are capable of.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

Cannon,

It's one person's opinion but coming from Steve Davidowitz, you listen.

I believe for an absolute certainty that Zenyatta’s Vanity run reinforced the notion that she is the best race mare of my lifetime, if not one of the top horses of any age or sex since Secretariat, Affirmed, Seattle Slew, Ruffian and Spectacular Bid were dominating the 1970s.

Here's the entire read: http://beat.bodoglife.com/horseracin...ces-90865.html

all i can say is he must be very, very young. no, really, i have no idea how old he is....i do know he's giving new meaning to the word 'hyperbole'. i think she's good, very good actually. best race mare? no. not of my lifetime, of a three month olds lifetime, maybe. one of the top horses since those in the '70's??? i guess it depends on how long of a list you make.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Danzig

all i can say is he must be very, very young. no, really, i have no idea how old he is....i do know he's giving new meaning to the word 'hyperbole'. i think she's good, very good actually. best race mare? no. not of my lifetime, of a three month olds lifetime, maybe. one of the top horses since those in the '70's??? i guess it depends on how long of a list you make.

He's old. He's lost it. Or never had it.

[DaTruth]

So Z is better than Azeri, Bayakoa, Bold N' Determined, Go For Wand, Inside Information, Lady's Secret, Melair, Paseana, Personal Ensign, Princess Rooney, Riboletta, and Serena's Song? That is nuts.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Danzig

all i can say is he must be very, very young. no, really, i have no idea how old he is....i do know he's giving new meaning to the word 'hyperbole'. i think she's good, very good actually. best race mare? no. not of my lifetime, of a three month olds lifetime, maybe. one of the top horses since those in the '70's??? i guess it depends on how long of a list you make.

Thats pretty much what I was thinking. I mean, are we just talking horses that have run here or are we talking about european horses as well? Can you really put her up there with:

Holy Bull, Ghostzapper, Alysheba, skip away, sunday silence, easy goer, cigar?

Those are US based horses I came up with off the top of my head and I'm sure you can think of a bunch more. Internationally, you would be hardpressed to put her in with these Mares:

Zarkhava, islington, goldikova, makybe Diva, Sunline, ouija board

I love Z but at the same time you have to be realistic. I think I can put her with some of the best mares in the last 30 years to run in the US but i have a hard time putting her up there with those horses named.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Danzig

all i can say is he must be very, very young. no, really, i have no idea how old he is....i do know he's giving new meaning to the word 'hyperbole'. i think she's good, very good actually. best race mare? no. not of my lifetime, of a three month olds lifetime, maybe. one of the top horses since those in the '70's??? i guess it depends on how long of a list you make.

Danzig, he's actually had 40 + yrs experience watching and handicapping horses, he has written a book called “Betting Thoroughbreds for the 21st Century.” and was featured in a Q&A in the N.Y Times.

http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/201...ve-davidowitz/

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

Danzig, he's actually had 40 + yrs experience watching and handicapping horses, he has written a book called “Betting Thoroughbreds for the 21st Century.” and was featured in a Q&A in the N.Y Times.

http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/201...ve-davidowitz/

well, we all know about what opinions are like. i disagree with his on this for sure.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by CSC

Danzig, he's actually had 40 + yrs experience watching horses, he has written a book called “Betting Thoroughbreds for the 21st Century.” and was featured in a Q&A in the N.Y Times.

http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/201...ve-davidowitz/

Davidowitz is a widely respected racing writer, which makes his statement even more outlandish as I expected him to show better judgment.