NBA Finals Lakers vs. Celtics

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Enjoy this run Benedict Arnold. It is a miracle and miracles dont repeat themselves.

Even after another year, who in the East is that much better? Rondo is a monster, PP is still really good, same with Ray. The bench just plays hard, Nate and Big Baby are great role players.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Even after another year, who in the East is that much better? Rondo is a monster, PP is still really good, same with Ray. The bench just plays hard, Nate and Big Baby are great role players.

I know that this will be news to you but they have this little thing called the salary cap...

Robingson is a FA, Allen is a FA, Tony Allen is a FA. They were already 27 million + the luxury tax over the cap. The only guys that they have coming off the cap are those 3 plus Scalabrine (-3 million), Daniels (-2 million), Williams (900k), Finley (300k) and 2 guys you never heard of (1.4)

Allen is going to look for a three year deal for around 30 million. You want to be paying him 10 million a year when he is 38? Pierce makes 21 million next year and then is a FA. He is in decline. KG makes 40 million over the next 2 years. Wallace makes 15 million over the same period. The only guy signed to a positive contract is Rondo. They caught a huge break signing him to a long term, now looking undervalued deal. Perkins has another year then he is going to be a 8-10 million dollar a year player.

So if you sign Allen what do you do after next year?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I know that this will be news to you but they have this little thing called the salary cap...

Robingson is a FA, Allen is a FA, Tony Allen is a FA. They were already 27 million + the luxury tax over the cap. The only guys that they have coming off the cap are those 3 plus Scalabrine (-3 million), Daniels (-2 million), Williams (900k), Finley (300k) and 2 guys you never heard of (1.4)

Allen is going to look for a three year deal for around 30 million. You want to be paying him 10 million a year when he is 38? Pierce makes 21 million next year and then is a FA. He is in decline. KG makes 40 million over the next 2 years. Wallace makes 15 million over the same period. The only guy signed to a positive contract is Rondo. They caught a huge break signing him to a long term, now looking undervalued deal. Perkins has another year then he is going to be a 8-10 million dollar a year player.

So if you sign Allen what do you do after next year?

Good Points Chuck, maybe they win this one and blow it all up and try to rebuild. I love Allen, but I dont give him 3 for 30 at this point.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Good Points Chuck, maybe they win this one and blow it all up and try to rebuild. I love Allen, but I dont give him 3 for 30 at this point.

The problem is that What do they do with Pierce next year? Same question as they have with Allen. And they have 2 more years of KG who has slipped to the level of a player making 1/2 of what he makes. Wallace is another problem and he cant even be used as a contract dump in a trade because he has a player option next year which he surely will exercise and also has a 15% trade kicker that teams will be loathe to pay. They surely knew this when they made these deals but it is refreshing to see them knowingly paint themselves in a corner to try to win now unlike the Phillies who traded Cliff Lee for non prospects to save money instead of riding him and Halladay to the WS this year.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The problem is that What do they do with Pierce next year? Same question as they have with Allen. And they have 2 more years of KG who has slipped to the level of a player making 1/2 of what he makes. Wallace is another problem and he cant even be used as a contract dump in a trade because he has a player option next year which he surely will exercise and also has a 15% trade kicker that teams will be loathe to pay. They surely knew this when they made these deals but it is refreshing to see them knowingly paint themselves in a corner to try to win now unlike the Phillies who traded Cliff Lee for non prospects to save money instead of riding him and Halladay to the WS this year.

I have thought of PP as a top 10 player for the last 10 years... I have said put him with Shaq on those Laker teams and they still win the titles. I dont know what to do with him at this point? I thought Wallace was a giant pick up for this year, and he did guard Dwight really good and still makes some big shots, but he is another one who after this year likely wont have much left....
What is the Celtics starting 5 next year, In your opinion?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I have thought of PP as a top 10 player for the last 10 years... I have said put him with Shaq on those Laker teams and they still win the titles. I dont know what to do with him at this point? I thought Wallace was a giant pick up for this year, and he did guard Dwight really good and still makes some big shots, but he is another one who after this year likely wont have much left....
What is the Celtics starting 5 next year, In your opinion?

Rondo
KG
Perkins
Pierce
???

If they can get Allen to resign maybe a 2 yr deal for something like 8 mill a year I could see him coming back. But this is his last contract and NBA players arent known for giving discounts regardless of circumstances. The problem is that they dont have much space to get anyone else to fill out the roster and depth is an issue. Who knows they may sign and trade allen for someone?

[AlreadyHome]

Boston celtics suckkkkkkkkkkkk LA gonna win 2 there an win it all at Home

Kobe is mad an he's gonna take it out on the celtics an the refs,, you see next 2games

GAme3 i gave you fair warning Beware

[ateamstupid]

Holy sh it the Lakers are pu ssies. Gasol trips over his own feet and Kobe gets half a fingernail on his elbow, whistle whistle.