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[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I loved Personal Ensign but even I admit that saying Zenyatta isn't in her class is more than unfair. Yeah, she is getting a puzzling campaign ( again ) but come on.

I dont see how its unfair. Zenyatta could be the best horsey to ever set foot on a racetrack, but when the connections keep putting her in these piss poor races, you just cant get a fair synopsis on her. Even the BCC was extremely weak and on a foreign surface to most of the participants.

If she beats the males, or top females on dirt this year, and wins the BCC again, I will change my tune. So far her only races that haven't been Pepper's Pride-esque (not in terms of actual ability, but quality of races) are the BCC and the previous Oaklawn race.

She could be better than Personal Ensign for all we know.. I'd just like to see it. It doesnt even matter if she loses one or two along the way, she can still prove her greatness.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I dont see how its unfair. Zenyatta could be the best horsey to ever set foot on a racetrack, but when the connections keep putting her in these piss poor races, you just cant get a fair synopsis on her. Even the BCC was extremely weak and on a foreign surface to most of the participants.

If she beats the males, or top females on dirt this year, and wins the BCC again, I will change my tune. So far her only races that haven't been Pepper's Pride-esque (not in terms of actual ability, but quality of races) are the BCC and the previous Oaklawn race.

She could be better than Personal Ensign for all we know.. I'd just like to see it. It doesnt even matter if she loses one or two along the way, she can still prove her greatness.

Breeders Cup distaff, Breeders Cup classic, two Apple Blossoms............are you delusional? Give me the races that Personal Ensign was in?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Breeders Cup distaff, Breeders Cup classic, two Apple Blossoms............are you delusional? Give me the races that Personal Ensign was in?

BC Distaff over Winning Colors (better than anyone in last years BCC or the prior years BC Distaff)

Whitney (beats the crap out of last years BCC)

Beldame (twice)

Shuvee

Molly Pitcher

Maskette

Hempstead

Frizette (at 2)


if you really want to compare those two Apple Blossoms to the 5 female races above, than I will throw that delusional statement right back at ya.


Or what about the whole synthetic issue? I will admit, I hate that fucl<ing surface, so I am biased. The BCC and BC Distaff will always be tainted because of the surface In. my. personal. opinion.