Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-03-2010, 11:59 AM
knickslions2's Avatar
knickslions2 knickslions2 is offline
Longchamps
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 13,687
Default

Say what you all want no one has beaten Zenyata. Not many horses can say that. She did beat the Derby winner, Belmont winner and many other grade 1 winners. Give the horse some respect.

Last edited by knickslions2 : 06-03-2010 at 12:18 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-03-2010, 12:04 PM
blackthroatedwind blackthroatedwind is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 9,938
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by knickslions2 View Post
Say what you all want no one has beaten Zenyata. Not many horses can say that. He did beat the Derby winner, Belmont winner and many other grade 1 winners. Give the horse some respect.
And, apparently, she had a sex change.
__________________
Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-03-2010, 12:20 PM
knickslions2's Avatar
knickslions2 knickslions2 is offline
Longchamps
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 13,687
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind View Post
And, apparently, she had a sex change.
OOPs must of had chaz bono on my mind.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-03-2010, 01:54 PM
Antitrust32 Antitrust32 is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ft Lauderdale
Posts: 9,413
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by knickslions2 View Post
Say what you all want no one has beaten Zenyata. Not many horses can say that. She did beat the Derby winner, Belmont winner and many other grade 1 winners. Give the horse some respect.
she's a really good horse, but she shouldnt be mentioned in the same post as Personal Ensign yet.. let alone Citation.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
Can I start just making stuff up out of thin air, too?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-03-2010, 02:40 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antitrust32 View Post
she's a really good horse, but she shouldnt be mentioned in the same post as Personal Ensign yet.. let alone Citation.
Seriously...cmon
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-03-2010, 02:43 PM
Gaining Ground Gaining Ground is offline
Hawthorne
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 502
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up View Post
Seriously...cmon
who beat better horses, personal ensign or zenyatta?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-03-2010, 02:47 PM
CSC's Avatar
CSC CSC is offline
Arlington Park
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,408
Default

At this stage, I put the win streak nice as it is, a distant 3rd in what I want Zenyatta to accomplish in 2010. My wish list would be:

1. For her to win the BC Classic
2. To drown Rachel in a race where her fitness level is at 101%

If this could be accomplished all at CD in the Classic, all the better.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-03-2010, 02:56 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaining Ground View Post
who beat better horses, personal ensign or zenyatta?
who is a better race horse? Who they beat is not the only component.

Zenyatta has beat a few champions in her career as well.
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-03-2010, 03:00 PM
Gaining Ground Gaining Ground is offline
Hawthorne
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 502
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up View Post
who is a better race horse? Who they beat is not the only component.

Zenyatta has beat a few champions in her career as well.
personal ensign is the better horse imo. who they beat is not the only component. but shouldnt it be a component?

personal ensign beat better right?

Last edited by Gaining Ground : 06-03-2010 at 03:16 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-03-2010, 03:09 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaining Ground View Post
personal ensign is the better horse imo. who they beat is not the only component. but shouldnt it be a component?

personal ensign beat beat right?
beat beat? I don't know what your asking.

I have no idea how you can say definitely that Personal Ensign is a better race horse looking at the two records on paper. I agree Personal Ensign has beaten pretty good horses but Zenyatta has beaten a few as well.

Where did you stand on the Easy Goer/Sunday Silence question?
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-03-2010, 03:16 PM
Antitrust32 Antitrust32 is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ft Lauderdale
Posts: 9,413
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up View Post
who is a better race horse? Who they beat is not the only component.

Zenyatta has beat a few champions in her career as well.
Who is a better race horse?

Personal Ensign
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
Can I start just making stuff up out of thin air, too?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-03-2010, 03:22 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antitrust32 View Post
Who is a better race horse?

Personal Ensign
very debatable
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-03-2010, 02:41 PM
AlreadyHome's Avatar
AlreadyHome AlreadyHome is offline
Louisiana Downs
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 316
Lightbulb Lol Z Haters

Z is in a class of her own you can't compare her to any1
she the best thing to hit the 21century in HR.
come on, shes Flawless, is not her fault shes beautiful an great an has no competition, she's sent from heaven so enjoy the blessing oF the ULTIMATE ZENYATTA
Attached Images
File Type: jpg zz.JPG (13.9 KB, 10 views)
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-03-2010, 03:20 PM
ateamstupid's Avatar
ateamstupid ateamstupid is offline
Super Mod.. and Super Fly
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 13,036
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlreadyHome View Post
Z is in a class of her own you can't compare her to any1
she the best thing to hit the 21century in HR.
come on, shes Flawless, is not her fault shes beautiful an great an has no competition, she's sent from heaven so enjoy the blessing oF the ULTIMATE ZENYATTA
Oh my God.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-03-2010, 03:28 PM
blackthroatedwind blackthroatedwind is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 9,938
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ateamstupid View Post
Oh my God.

You're not as familiar with Charlee as some of us are....just ask Clyde.
__________________
Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 06-03-2010, 03:34 PM
blackthroatedwind blackthroatedwind is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 9,938
Default

Sorry, but I don't think it's unfair to compare Zenyatta favorably to Personal Ensign. Who the hell knows for sure who was better....but we do know they are both damn good.

The whole Zenyatta thing has gotten distorted for a number of reasons. One, nitwits on the internet ( and this is a big one ). They have annoyed many rational people so much that the sane folk become insane. Two, and this is related, the insistance ( often by the same nitwits ) that she was robbed of HOY despite the obvious has further frustrated sane people ( believe it or not, many sane people who believe Zenyatta is better than Rachel also believe the clear and correct choice was made last year ). Three, her tepid campaign this year, on the heels of last year, has further frustrated many. But this shouldn't mean people should fail to recognize her enormous talent, and further diminish her.
__________________
Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06-03-2010, 03:40 PM
Antitrust32 Antitrust32 is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ft Lauderdale
Posts: 9,413
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind View Post
Sorry, but I don't think it's unfair to compare Zenyatta favorably to Personal Ensign. Who the hell knows for sure who was better....but we do know they are both damn good.

The whole Zenyatta thing has gotten distorted for a number of reasons. One, nitwits on the internet ( and this is a big one ). They have annoyed many rational people so much that the sane folk become insane. Two, and this is related, the insistance ( often by the same nitwits ) that she was robbed of HOY despite the obvious has further frustrated sane people ( believe it or not, many sane people who believe Zenyatta is better than Rachel also believe the clear and correct choice was made last year ). Three, her tepid campaign this year, on the heels of last year, has further frustrated many. But this shouldn't mean people should fail to recognize her enormous talent, and further diminish her.
I 100% agree with this.

For me, Personal Ensign was the greatest female race horse ever, or tied with another one or two.. I wouldnt put RA or Z or Azeri or anyone in the past 20/25 years near her yet.. Go For Wand would be close though.

Booth Operator and CSC make me not even want to visit the state of California ever again.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
Can I start just making stuff up out of thin air, too?
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 06-03-2010, 04:45 PM
alysheba4 alysheba4 is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,424
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind View Post
Sorry, but I don't think it's unfair to compare Zenyatta favorably to Personal Ensign. Who the hell knows for sure who was better....but we do know they are both damn good.

The whole Zenyatta thing has gotten distorted for a number of reasons. One, nitwits on the internet ( and this is a big one ). They have annoyed many rational people so much that the sane folk become insane. Two, and this is related, the insistance ( often by the same nitwits ) that she was robbed of HOY despite the obvious has further frustrated sane people ( believe it or not, many sane people who believe Zenyatta is better than Rachel also believe the clear and correct choice was made last year ). Three, her tepid campaign this year, on the heels of last year, has further frustrated many. But this shouldn't mean people should fail to recognize her enormous talent, and further diminish her.
.....best post of the 1,324,000.......
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-03-2010, 09:47 PM
DaTruth's Avatar
DaTruth DaTruth is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 1,969
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind View Post
Sorry, but I don't think it's unfair to compare Zenyatta favorably to Personal Ensign. Who the hell knows for sure who was better....but we do know they are both damn good.

The whole Zenyatta thing has gotten distorted for a number of reasons. One, nitwits on the internet ( and this is a big one ). They have annoyed many rational people so much that the sane folk become insane. Two, and this is related, the insistance ( often by the same nitwits ) that she was robbed of HOY despite the obvious has further frustrated sane people ( believe it or not, many sane people who believe Zenyatta is better than Rachel also believe the clear and correct choice was made last year ). Three, her tepid campaign this year, on the heels of last year, has further frustrated many. But this shouldn't mean people should fail to recognize her enormous talent, and further diminish her.
Unfortunately, some of Zenayatta's supporters have this disorder that compels them to establish the case for Zenyatta's greatness ad nauseam.
__________________
Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner? You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really don't want me to go down there!
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 06-03-2010, 10:09 PM
AlreadyHome's Avatar
AlreadyHome AlreadyHome is offline
Louisiana Downs
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 316
Lightbulb Z

Quote:
Originally Posted by ateamstupid View Post
Oh my God.
he's my God 2, but all the so call great Horses duck The Almighty Z
here is looking @ U




the rock says just bring it ......
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:20 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.