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Old 05-27-2010, 07:18 PM
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Once upon a time you were a trip handicapper. Now, you're a NYRA and DRF/BEYER shill. You're indoctrinated and the best part of what you do/represent is suppressed for the 'cause'. You're clearly the Christopher Clavius of present day racing.
Now that I have the time to answer this crap in more detail.....

I work for NYRA, so of course I promote what we do, but whether you like it or not, I also happen to believe in what we are doing, whether they are the best of times or less so. I neither lie to nor deceive people....nor would I ever. As for the BEYER/DRF shill comment.....this is utter BS. I have used the DRF Formulator product for many years, and always felt it was the best available product, and am proud if in any way I have helped even one horseplayer by bringing it to their attention. As for Beyer, please find ONE other public handicapper that intelligently disagrees with specific figures, on the air, even 1/10th as much as I do. Just because I say why, and do it in a fair manner, does not mean I am shilling or defending them. And, feel free to ask Beyer if there is anyone that discusses differences of opinion over figures more with him than I do outside of his business associates.

As for the rest, where you suggest what I do has been suppressed....this is the biggest pile of sh it you have ever laid on any message board....and that's saying something. I am forthright in my discussion of races, trips, and rides, and I dare you to prove otherwise with actual examples.

This was a disgraceful cheap shot on your part....and frankly you should know a lot better. I don't care if someone doesn't like my style, or agree with my opinion, or even like me....but if you are going to criticize me, do yourself the favor of doing it with at least some accuracy.
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:04 PM
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now even goldikova can't be discussed without zenyatta being mentioned?! good god, some people are stuck in a rut.
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:16 PM
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now even goldikova can't be discussed without zenyatta being mentioned?! good god, some people are stuck in a rut.
Well, she is an interesting counterexample of how an owner that is confident in his ( or her ) horse can campaign it....especially if they aren't afraid to lose.

Then again, Rachel Alexandra already demonstrated that as well last year.
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Old 05-28-2010, 02:07 AM
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Now that I have the time to answer this crap in more detail.....

I work for NYRA, so of course I promote what we do, but whether you like it or not, I also happen to believe in what we are doing, whether they are the best of times or less so. I neither lie to nor deceive people....nor would I ever. As for the BEYER/DRF shill comment.....this is utter BS. I have used the DRF Formulator product for many years, and always felt it was the best available product, and am proud if in any way I have helped even one horseplayer by bringing it to their attention. As for Beyer, please find ONE other public handicapper that intelligently disagrees with specific figures, on the air, even 1/10th as much as I do. Just because I say why, and do it in a fair manner, does not mean I am shilling or defending them. And, feel free to ask Beyer if there is anyone that discusses differences of opinion over figures more with him than I do outside of his business associates.

As for the rest, where you suggest what I do has been suppressed....this is the biggest pile of sh it you have ever laid on any message board....and that's saying something. I am forthright in my discussion of races, trips, and rides, and I dare you to prove otherwise with actual examples.

This was a disgraceful cheap shot on your part....and frankly you should know a lot better. I don't care if someone doesn't like my style, or agree with my opinion, or even like me....but if you are going to criticize me, do yourself the favor of doing it with at least some accuracy.
Holy cow man. How many times did you say "I" in that post?
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