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CSC · #41 05-15-2010, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Doesn't scare me... I'm not using him in the top spot.

If I'm wrong I'll be the first to admit it but no,I don't see him winning tomorrow.

That said, I know it's a lot easier to predict who will lose than who will win.

I'm using Caracortado on top and Paddy, Aikenite and Jackson Bend in some order underneath.

Maybe I'll use SS in a super.

Good luck to all his fans and I wish him well of course, a safe trip home. I don't think he's the Triple Crown winner we'd all love to see...

Maybe next year.

Hey Stormcat,
The pace is what I will be watching, if it is anything around 47 as opposed to 46 for the half I would expect it will favor the forwardly placed horses. If it is 46 a closer could possibly take it. Aikenite will be taken back for one run, if he gets 46 to run at he has a shot, obviously I am hoping for some heat up front. Goodluck with your picks!

2Hot4TV · #42 05-15-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

Hey Stormcat,
The pace is what I will be watching, if it is anything around 47 as opposed to 46 for the half I would expect it will favor the forwardly placed horses. If it is 46 a closer could possibly take it. Aikenite will be taken back for one run, if he gets 46 to run at he has a shot, obviously I am hoping for some heat up front. Goodluck with your picks!

When was the last time a closer won this race?

Seems to me that it has favored the speed and pace ( 1,2,3,) positions.

philcski · #43 05-15-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

When was the last time a closer won this race?

Seems to me that it has favored the speed and pace ( 1,2,3,) positions.

2007
2006
2005

CSC · #44 05-15-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

When was the last time a closer won this race?

Seems to me that it has favored the speed and pace ( 1,2,3,) positions.

In addition closers have run well here that didn't win, Mine That Bird, Magic Wisener, Captain Bolgit ect...I'm sure I'm missing a few but it's not an impossible track to make up ground on. Obcourse it all depends if there is some pace to run at.

randallscott35 · #45 05-15-2010, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

In addition closers have run well here that didn't win, Mine That Bird, Magic Wisener, Captain Bolgit ect...I'm sure I'm missing a few but it's not an impossible track to make up ground on. Obcourse it all depends if there is some pace to run at.

Its a fair track.

NTamm1215 · #46 05-15-2010, 11:29 AM

The chance that the opening half-mile in the Preakness is in :46 and change is almost non-existent. The pace is going to be very soft IMO and that's going to play into Super Saver's hands.

NT

slotdirt · #47 05-15-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski

2007
2006
2005

Afleet Alex was a closer? Bernardini? With all due respect, but really?

2Hot4TV · #48 05-15-2010, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Afleet Alex was a closer? Bernardini? With all due respect, but really?

I was asking a ?, not claiming to be the expert. By the way how far back do you consider a horse to be a closer,,,,, say when the leaders get to the quarter pole?

RollerDoc · #49 05-15-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Afleet Alex was a closer? Bernardini? With all due respect, but really?

Big Brown had one of the greatest closes in the history of the Preakness. That is if you consider the top of the stretch as closing territory.

2Hot4TV · #50 05-15-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Big Brown had one of the greatest closes in the history of the Preakness. That is if you consider the top of the stretch as closing territory.

Big Brown was never more than 3 lenghts off the pace, he did swing wide to find clear running in the stretch.

2009 RA set the fractions for most of the race.
2008 Big Brown was clearly just off the pace
2007 Curlin sat back with Street Sense while a speed duel set up the closer Curlin.
2006 Bernadinie rated 4th just off the pace
2005 AA Closed from 10th as the speed backed up.
2004 Smarty Party raced within 1/2 lenght of the pace.
2003 We all remember Funny Cide stalking the pace.
2002 War Emblem Set the fractions?
2001 Point Given the most over rated horse in my time had to be off the pace and grind it out, because he was devoid of early speed and had NO turn of foot. Plodder

2Hot4TV · #51 05-15-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Afleet Alex was a closer? Bernardini? With all due respect, but really?

In this case AA was a closer.

randallscott35 · #52 05-15-2010, 05:25 PM

Oh my God. Disaster. Back to the drawing board. SS had nothin. Very surprised.

slotdirt · #53 05-15-2010, 05:26 PM

First Dude ran HUGE.

randallscott35 · #54 05-15-2010, 05:26 PM

Feel bad for Belmont too. Wanted that crowd.

Merlinsky · #55 05-15-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Feel bad for Belmont too. Wanted that crowd.

Yeah I always feel bad for NY in situations like this.

Donna said he'd lost weight and the way she did it, right before the start, I just went 'uh oh, I bet he loses.' I got the impression from others that he was holding his weight well, but I guess not. At least I didn't spend the race convinced he was destined for victory only to see him fall apart.

outofthebox · #56 05-15-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The chance that the opening half-mile in the Preakness is in :46 and change is almost non-existent. The pace is going to be very soft IMO and that's going to play into Super Saver's hands.

NT

On paper i thought so too. But you know it did not matter what the pace was today. SS just did not have anything in the tank.