5/15 (PIM): Ike out; 12 for Preakness; Draw 5pm (HRTV)

[packerbacker7964]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

ummmmmm, they did.

it's a joke you know ha ha? I know Dublin has every right to be in the Preakness but sometimes ole D Wayne runs them just to be there in the gate. As far as the Caps go it was 1 vs 8 and they choked.

[largo1]

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964
Yeah just like the Caps belonged in the NHL playoffs.ha ha


Thats just plain mean!

[CSC]

I would say any of the legitimate speed horses deserve another chance to redeem themselves here, this Preakness is going to be more wide open than others.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

it's a joke you know ha ha? I know Dublin has every right to be in the Preakness but sometimes ole D Wayne runs them just to be there in the gate. As far as the Caps go it was 1 vs 8 and they choked.

thanks, i appreciate it...

top three seeds all lost, crazy playoffs.

maybe next year.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by packerbacker7964

it's a joke you know ha ha? I know Dublin has every right to be in the Preakness but sometimes ole D Wayne runs them just to be there in the gate. As far as the Caps go it was 1 vs 8 and they choked.

The Caps were a dissapointment though I am not sure they would have won the cup with the goaltending they had anyway, Ovie is more flash than substance at the moment. He's a very talanted player however The same thing happened to him in the Olympics where he didn't elevate his game. I'd take Crosby over him anyday of the the week, Crosby finds ways to beat you and he seems to be able to elevate his game when need be. In a way this almost relates to horseracing discussion, where people at times deviate towards flashier horses rather than susbstance.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by CSC

The Caps were a dissapointment though I am not sure they would have won the cup with the goaltending they had anyway, Ovie is more flash than substance at the moment. He's a very talanted player however The same thing happened to him in the Olympics where he didn't elevate his game. I'd take Crosby over him anyday of the the week, Crosby finds ways to beat you and he seems to be able to elevate his game when need be. In a way this almost relates to horseracing discussion, where people at times deviate towards flashier horses rather than susbstance.

Pass that dutch to the left hand side.

[largo1]

Left-handed smokes????

[packerbacker7964]

just messing with you my fellow Arkie. My Wings are not doing much better against the Sharks. What makes me mad is the "we're going to miss the playoffs if we don't get our crap together" then we go 20 and change to end the regular season. But I will say Just another Arkansas Derby runner wins the Derby

[zippyneedsawin]

ok, let's get this thread back on topic and away from NHL playoffs (coming from a disappointed Sabres fan..)

from DRF.com:



Possible Preakness starters
By David Grening
The following a list of possible starters for the Preakness Stakes at Pimlico on May 15:

Horse (trainer)

Aikenite (Todd Pletcher)

A Little Warm (Tony Dutrow)

Bushwhacked (Jonathan Sheppard)

Caracortado (Mike Machowsky)

Dublin (D. Wayne Lukas)

Hurricane Ike (John Sadler)

Ice Box (Nick Zito)

Jackson Bend (Nick Zito)

Lookin At Lucky (Bob Baffert)

Paddy O Prado (Dale Romans)

Pleasant Prince (Wesley Ward)

Schoolyard Dreams (Derek Ryan)

Super Saver (Todd Pletcher)

Turf Melody (Graham Motion)

[CSC]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Pass that dutch to the left hand side.

Ovie is the most talented player in the NHL but he is not a team player, Crosby is, every team he has played on has won a championship. Juniors, Olympics, and Stanley cups. All you have to do is look at the playoff scoring this year who's on top? Though he does other things to beat you, and who can forget the goal he scored on Miller in the gold medal game.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

The Caps were a dissapointment though I am not sure they would have won the cup with the goaltending they had anyway, Ovie is more flash than substance at the moment. He's a very talanted player however The same thing happened to him in the Olympics where he didn't elevate his game. I'd take Crosby over him anyday of the the week, Crosby finds ways to beat you and he seems to be able to elevate his game when need be. In a way this almost relates to horseracing discussion, where people at times deviate towards flashier horses rather than susbstance.

their record after ovie became captain was gaudy, so i disagree about more flash than substance. as for crosby, not a fan. he's talented alright. but i do think some tend to forget that this is a team sport. pens without malkin faded a bit during the regular season.
caps had one hell of a year, maybe next year they'll have a better post-season.

funny tho, ovechkin/crosby is almost like zenyatta/rachel. someone mentions one, only a matter of time before the other comes up.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Danzig

their record after ovie became captain was gaudy, so i disagree about more flash than substance. as for crosby, not a fan. he's talented alright. but i do think some tend to forget that this is a team sport. pens without malkin faded a bit during the regular season.
caps had one hell of a year, maybe next year they'll have a better post-season.

funny tho, ovechkin/crosby is almost like zenyatta/rachel. someone mentions one, only a matter of time before the other comes up.

It's no different than in other sports, you need a championship to elevate yourself to superstar status. Not unlike Pletcher getting his 1st derby, Frankel with his BC...There are the Tom Brady's, Gretzky's and Crosby's that are associated with winning, until Ovie shows he can lift his team over the hump, he will always have that tag of being a great individual player that can win during the season but can he win the big game?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

It's no different than in other sports, you need a championship to elevate yourself to superstar status. Not unlike Pletcher getting his 1st derby, Frankel with his BC...There are the Tom Brady's, Gretzky's and Crosby's that are associated with winning, until Ovie shows he can lift his team over the hump, he will always have that tag of being a great individual player that can win during the season but can he win the big game?

so, if you really believe that, doug williams or mark rypien is a better QB than dan marino???

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Danzig

so, if you really believe that, doug williams or mark rypien is a better QB than dan marino???

No, just better pass protection.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Danzig

so, if you really believe that, doug williams or mark rypien is a better QB than dan marino???

I think we were talking about Crosby being better than Ovie or vice versa, I don't know if you are a Caps fan but if you watched the Olympics and the Stanley Cup Playoffs or when the games really matter in the scheme of the winning theme, you definitely would be hard pressed to say Ovie was better than Crosby, and even when the games mean't less in the regular season Crosby outscored Ovie again, as he did in the olympics, and NHL Playoffs. You want him , you can have him. I'll take Crosby.

[rpncaine]

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by CSC

I think we were talking about Crosby being better than Ovie or vice versa, I don't know if you are a Caps fan but if you watched the Olympics and the Stanley Cup Playoffs or when the games really matter in the scheme of the winning theme, you definitely would be hard pressed to say Ovie was better than Crosby, and even when the games mean't less in the regular season Crosby outscored Ovie again, as he did in the olympics, and NHL Playoffs. You want him , you can have him. I'll take Crosby.

Crosby is the biggest baby in the league. He should be suspended for that stick action against the Montreal net today. When he grows up, maybe then I can give him a little respect, but right now, he is just a little crybaby punk who can light the lamp. I hope he never gets a sniff of another title.