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Old 05-02-2010, 01:08 PM
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would love to see jackson bend come out of the derby ok and run the preakness...distance might suit him a little better
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Old 05-02-2010, 01:32 PM
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I can't see Pletch running Aikenite in there against SS.
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Old 05-02-2010, 01:57 PM
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@derbycontenders tweeted that Ice Box is unlikely for the Preakness.
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Old 05-02-2010, 02:01 PM
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What about Drosselmeyer?

Interesting to see if Winstar decides to run 2 in that race, or points Drosselmeyer elsewhere.

There's no Peter Pan this year, right? So..unless you go in the Dwyer, there's not a lot of options.
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Old 05-02-2010, 02:40 PM
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U would think ice box would be ideally suited to the belmont...
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Guessing that Zito may run Jackson Bend in Preakness and put Ice Box in the Belmont. Ice Box is going to love that Belmont stretch. Won't get 11-1 on him in the Belmont.
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Old 05-02-2010, 03:31 PM
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Guessing that Zito may run Jackson Bend in Preakness and put Ice Box in the Belmont. Ice Box is going to love that Belmont stretch. Won't get 11-1 on him in the Belmont.
Don't mean to burst your bubble but the stretch at Belmont is shorter than Churchill by nearly 150 feet. The turns at Belmont are what go on forever.

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Old 05-03-2010, 09:47 PM
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What about Drosselmeyer?

Interesting to see if Winstar decides to run 2 in that race, or points Drosselmeyer elsewhere.

There's no Peter Pan this year, right? So..unless you go in the Dwyer, there's not a lot of options.
DRF reported today that Drosselmeyer was likely for the Dwyer. Makes sense as no way Winstar wants one of their other horses to beat Super Saver in the Preakness.
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DRF reported today that Drosselmeyer was likely for the Dwyer. Makes sense as no way Winstar wants one of their other horses to beat Super Saver in the Preakness.
Drosselmeyer and Turf Melody are drawn into the Dwyer
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I can't see Pletch running Aikenite in there against SS.
was just thinking the same thing.
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Old 05-02-2010, 03:59 PM
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I can't see Pletch running Aikenite in there against SS.
So what does he tell Dogwood? Sorry I have the Derby winner, you can't run?
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would love to see jackson bend come out of the derby ok and run the preakness...distance might suit him a little better
Distance , tighter turns and less horses. I would not run Ice Box and let him rest up for the Belmont.
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Distance , tighter turns and less horses. I would not run Ice Box and let him rest up for the Belmont.
The turns at Pimlico are not " tighter " than the ones at Churchill.
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The turns at Pimlico are not " tighter " than the ones at Churchill.
You are correct
http://www.east-coast-bias.com/2008/...ght-turns.html

But someome should tell Dutrow
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/r...rt-821634.html
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I see this thread is going awry already, but Ovechkin has nothing to do with the Caps not winning a Stanley Cup at this point. I'd say the fact that Semin is completely gutless and Mike Green is the worst stay-at-home defenseman in the league are bigger issues.

This year's Caps team reminds me of the '94 Red Wings, and we all know where that went after that year's humiliating first round loss to the Sharks.
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would love to see jackson bend come out of the derby ok and run the preakness...distance might suit him a little better
I don't know if he wants to go even 9 f, but there appears to be a lot less speed in here and I think this colt will give it a go.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:57 PM
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On Monday's show you said that 19 of the last 30 ITM finishers at the Preakness had run in the Derby. Actually it think it was 20.

Fu Peg and Impreachment in 2000; AP Valentine, Point Given and Congree in 2001: War Emblem and Proud Citizen in 2002; Funny Cide and Scrimshaw in 2003; Smarty Jones in 2004; Afleet Alex and Giacomo in 2005; Sweetnorthernsaint in 2006; Curlin, Street Sense and Hard Spun in 2007; Big Brown and Macho Again in 2008 and Mine That Bird and Musket Man in 2009.
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On Monday's show you said that 19 of the last 30 ITM finishers at the Preakness had run in the Derby. Actually it think it was 20.

Fu Peg and Impreachment in 2000; AP Valentine, Point Given and Congree in 2001: War Emblem and Proud Citizen in 2002; Funny Cide and Scrimshaw in 2003; Smarty Jones in 2004; Afleet Alex and Giacomo in 2005; Sweetnorthernsaint in 2006; Curlin, Street Sense and Hard Spun in 2007; Big Brown and Macho Again in 2008 and Mine That Bird and Musket Man in 2009.
I don't think Macho Again ran in the Derby.
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This is an excellent example of why I cannot listen to Steve's show.

Too much misinformation.
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On Monday's show you said that 19 of the last 30 ITM finishers at the Preakness had run in the Derby. Actually it think it was 20.

Fu Peg and Impreachment in 2000;
AP Valentine, Point Given and Congree in 2001;
War Emblem and Proud Citizen in 2002;
Funny Cide and Scrimshaw in 2003;
Smarty Jones in 2004;
Afleet Alex and Giacomo in 2005;
Sweetnorthernsaint in 2006;
Curlin, Street Sense and Hard Spun in 2007;
Big Brown and Macho Again in 2008;
Mine That Bird and Musket Man in 2009..
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I don't think Macho Again ran in the Derby.
He didn't.

Back to 19...
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